i read an argument also about someone wanting to ban guns completely, and they said, and i quote, “we cant stop violent crimes, but we can change the weapons they are using.” this has nothing to do with cabellas just something funny i found while browsing the interwebs. also caballas is not the best store. they have tried to charge me falsely on multiple occasions with their online bullshit, thats why i always go into the store.
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i agree with a safety course being mandatory, i think that thats something that should be a law, along with backround checks.
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That’s how we have it. Exam on safe handling + law knowledge, background check, health check. Works pretty well.
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You see, i would have no issues with laws like that. But they always want to register the guns as well. And many anti gun spokesmen have said multiple times. Once we register the guns we confiscate them.
DUDE PANDA EXPRESS! where the fuck are you i have money, worthless piece of shit? im fucking hungry.
I probably won’t be able to go out to eat today. I’ll be in at like 12.
Czech government is contemplating issuing service rifles to the army reservists. If they indeed decide to allow the reservists to take them home (now they have them only during training weeks), I might join the army.
Where the fuck is my government issued full auto fun stick? 
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Mean while my government tries to ban elderly people, and veterans from owning fire arms.
i doubt that would be as clear cut as it sounds . likely be certain "rules " to using the weapon . recreationally
Cabelas is extreamly over priced, and over rated. They’re cool as shit to walk around in (its like a fucking museum 
) but everything is so damn expensive. They charge 1400 fucking dollars for stock Ars there.
I was there recently checking out some arrows. 60 fucking dollars for 3 broad heads. It’s ridiculous.
They also don’t allow CC in their stores (at least the one near me). Pretty ironic if you ask me.
make your own 
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Don’t have the know how, or the time to learn sadly. I’d imagine i would need some molds, and something hot enough to melt steel down or some shit like that.
I may be over complicating it. 
absolutely . its not about stopping people from owning weapons . its just about educating people about how to operate and store such weapons .
A gun is harmless in an educated persons hands . but in the hands of idiots it can be fatal .
i dont see the issue with simply having to pass an exam and being issued with a licence then being free to purchase what you like within certain brackets .
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But they always want to register the guns as well.
[/quote] no need to register them , thats a different argument altogether
there is a youtube video for everything these days
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Events like that are a lot rarer then the media would have you believe. They love stories like this, because then they can jump all over them and say “see this is why civilians shouldn’t own guns”.
I don’t see the issue with going after the real issue here. Gangs and illegally obtained fire arms. Passing laws that require people to pass tests would affect a mere 5% of the murders in this country. And theres a solid chance it wouldn’t even affect them at all.
Most states already have background checks in place. The Aurora shooter passed through the background checks with flying colors.
That’s not how our government sees it. If you go in to get a mental health check for a fire arms license, the government then knows you own a weapon.
They’ve stated several times registration, then confiscation. In addition to that, a while back there was a city who registered fire arms. They then gave that list to the public, which was then used by criminals to break into houses.
no thats rubbish . being uneducated doesnt mean your a murderer does it ? just because you own a gun doesnt mean you’re going to go and shoot some random person .
http://nyagv.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Accidental-Shootings-NYAGV.pdf
what im talking about is people who dont store there weapons correctly when children are about or when they’re drinking .
people like that shouldnt own guns . they’re not fit to do so .
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The government has control of the military and police.
[/quote] incorrect . again you’re basing your argument against my nation on the situation in your own .
the UK parliament has zero authority of the armed forces of the UK .
as ive stated before i NEVER pledged an oath to the UK parliament . i swore an oath to the queen . her heirs and successors and the officers and generals above me . same with the police .
but then you may say "what if the queen ordered you too shoot protesters " the answer ? she doesnt have the power to do so . our constitution does not allow it .
our set up is very complicated . the queen can only deploy troops when advised by her minsters . but her minsters dont have the power to deploy troops without the queen authority .
think of it like a nuclear launch that requires multiple keys . they must all be turn at once for the missile to fire .
the only way what you are saying could EVER happen . was if the head of state , house of lords and parliament all went evil together or an armed revolution that over threw the government and installed a dictator .
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I’ll put a situation here for you. Lets say you were still active in the military. The government sends you to put down an insurrection, would you do it? If not you would be replaced simple as that.
[/quote] no i would not . and if i gave the order my men would not follow the order . neither would the generals above me .
as for me being replaced . the government does not hold the authority in the UK to replace me . the generals above me have that authority .
what you’re saying is 99.9999% impossible .
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Alls it takes for the government to size power is to put fear in everyone. After 9/11 everyone was all too happy to accept things like the patriot act and NSA because it kept us safe.
[/quote] again you’re basing your nation on mine . te new war powers in the UK were just after 9/11 here and they attempted to use the scare mongering tactic for that reason . as i said the proposals were tossed aside .
as the queen stated they did not align with the interests of the british people and its constitution .
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What’s happening to the U.S can easily happen to any other nation.
[/quote] any country with the same set up yes . but not the UK . the UK is a very complicated , odd system but works perfectly .
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This is why when a dictator takes over, he purges a lot of the military. And replaces it with people he trusts, who will fire on civilians. I have no doubt the vast majority of the U.S military would not turn on U.S citizens. But the government could easily find people who would.
[/quote] the army would turn on the government and an armed coup would take place .
a government without military support has no power .
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And i debunked your “all illegal guns start legal”. It’s not true. Making fire arms is relatively easy today if you have the right schematics and supplies. Countries like China, and South American countries make killings off of this.
[/quote] you debunked it in what way . ? are you disputing a criminals glock 17 was not produced by glock ?
home made fire arms do exist yes . but you know as well as i do the majority of crimes are not committed with home made weapons .
they’re committed with illegally obtained weapons , but not illegally produced weapons .
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Lol they were built in some country like Russia or Ukraine 20 years ago. In what way would passing gun laws affect the sale of illegal aks?
[/quote] so as i said the AK’s were legally produced and then legally sold by russia to basically anyone willing to take up arms against the west for very cheap .
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In what way would passing gun laws affect the sale of illegal aks?
[/quote] it wouldnt . correct guns laws must go in hand with other aspects . not simply passing a new law .
as ive stated before it would take many many many years for the US to balance it self again as it did the UK . you seem to forget . the UK used to make the US gun laws look strict .
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Our problem is all the illegal weapons being smuggled in. Gun laws would have absolutely no effect on them, gangs would continue to get them, and citizens would have a harder time getting them.
[/quote] which is why guns laws go hand in hand with other aspects such as clamping down on smuggling .
lets be clear here , you will never get it too zero .
but again you’re confusing what im saying , im simply saying people should be educated before being allowed to purchase a gun
im not talking about murders , im talking about basic fucking common sense .
a driving test isnt going to stop someone purposely running someone over , of course not .
but it simply educated people on how to drive safely so they can enjoy driving safely .
same principle with guns .
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That’s not how our government sees it. If you go in to get a mental health check for a fire arms license, the government then knows you own a weapon.
[/quote] whats the issue with the government knowing you own a weapon ? so fucking what .
you’re so hell bent on being against the "system " its unreal . if the law states you own the weapon legally , they cant enforce fuck all on you .
you have created this paranoia in your own head of your government being out for you . this exists in no other nation on earth .
i mean don’t get me wrong my government are wankers , but you take it too a new level . with a load of tin hat shit . to the outside world its fucking funny .
murican rage inbound
M1 abrams taken out in yemen
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Well if someone sees it, then you don’t CC properly in the first place.
Fortunatelly, here private bans don’t have any legal weight, they may just ask you to leave, but that is all. (Just if you carry during demonstration or in court it is a misdemeanor)
You write rules I read guidelines 
Any source on the particular nature of the rocket that took it down?
Also, what the fuck was that? Isn’t the ammo stored in the back and shouldn’t the blast go up from there, instead of the hull?