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I’m just watching interview with a Czech newspaperwoman who went with Syrian refugees all the way from Macedonia to Austria.

Things she says about Hungarian public and authorities are so fucking shameful.

@TheDivineInfidel @snejdarek

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I do find it ironic though. Europeans have been calling us racists for years, because we don’t like illegals coming in. Now they are complaining about it.

I guess they’ve had a change of heart.

??? huh . no we have not . an illegal in europe is illegal . simple as . they’re arrested and deported , end of .

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Ive been receiving crap from Europeans for years. They always called Americans racist, because we don’t like illegals swarming across our country.

As of recent though, i haven’t heard them say that.

i dont know what Europeans you have been talking too then . illegal immigration is not argued …its illegal .

the argument in europe (and the one im passionate about ) is LEGAL immigration and the current rates its taking place at . irrelevant of race , gender etc . my issue is solely number based .

out side of my dark sense of humour :slight_smile: i couldnt give a fuck about race . so it becomes hard for them to pin me down as a racist , because i dont engage in applying a particular race to "immigrants " . when having a serious discussion i try to keep it number based .

you should try a similar tactic .

Mainly British ones. If American bashing starts, they always bring up us being racist for being anti illegal.

Well kind of hard since the overwhelming majority of illegals are Mexican, although the Chinese illegal immigration rates are rising.

i doubt it . illegal is illegal .

i would suspect its your tone in which you represent yourself as racist .

as i say , my sense of humour can be casually racist but i certainly dont seriously believe a black , asian or whatever person is lower than me in anyway . where as you sometimes combine casual racism into serious debate . making it hard for anyone to take you seriously . Thus causing them to accuse you of being racist

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why is there country of origin relevant ? an illegal immigrant from the UK is no better than one from mexico . both are illegal , both should be deported .

dont bring race or nationality into it . speak solely on the terms of illegal immigration . otherwise your argument just turns into a rant about mexicans = perceived as racist …

in short , the substance of your argument is not racist but the way in which you present it , can be perceived as such

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Perception V.S. intention at work!

Yay are we learning now?

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Well you can doubt it all you want. But ive had plenty of Left wing tree huggers from the U.K say Americans are racist over immigration.

I had one guy say he was disgusted at the sight of people in Arizona blocking the buses carrying the illegals.

Can you provide examples of this?

When did i say only illegal Mexicans should be deported?

The people arguing for illegal immigration bring up Mexico as well, it’s the main source of illegal immigration that’s why its brought up by both sides.

For a left winger everything is racist. Anti illegal immigration= racist, don’t like Obama= racist pro gun= racist ect. I frankly don’t care if they see me as racist, they are free to form their own opinions even if they’re flat out wrong.

Most people today are too afraid of offending others, i don’t give a shit if i offend someone else.

Like the Troll cave description says offense is taken, never given.

i dont think i need to waste my time . crime statistics you straight away talk about it being committed by mostly blacks .
not saying you’re wrong . but straight away you have fed idea of you being a racist .

illegal immigration , you talk mainly about mexicans rather than the issue as a whole (illegals from the entire globe ),

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7114, topic:21032”]
When did i say only illegal Mexicans should be deported?
[/quote] you didnt . but your tone gives the impression you just hate mexicans and as i say your opinion quickly turns to a anti-mexican rant .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7114, topic:21032”]
The people arguing for illegal immigration bring up Mexico as well, it’s the main source of illegal immigration that’s why its brought up by both sides.
[/quote] pull the argument away from mexicans when they do this . keep the conversation broad . not just "them fucking border hoping , job stealing sweaty mexican wankers "

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7114, topic:21032”]
For a left winger everything is racist. Anti illegal immigration= racist, don’t like Obama= racist pro gun= racist ect. I frankly don’t care if they see me as racist, they are free to form their own opinions even if they’re flat out wrong.

Most people today are too afraid of offending others, i don’t give a shit if i offend someone else.
[/quote] i agree . but generally when having a debate on this issue outside of the troll cave where im slightly more serious . i simply wont feed the perception of me being racist which makes it entertaining when im still accused of being racist , as i ask them to find where i was racist which of course they cant do .

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So stating facts= racism? If someone really thinks that, then they aren’t worth my time.

Because that’s where the over whelming majority come from. If we could stop the illegal immigration from Mexico, our illegal immigration would be almost non existent.

The only anger ive ever expressed towards Mexicans are illegal ones. When do you hear me complaining about legal ones?

Why? Do hundreds of thousands of illegals swarm into the U.S from Canada every year? From Europe? From Asia?
Mexico is 100% relevant to illegal immigration arguments concerning the U.S. You cannot talk about illegal immigration and not bring up Mexico.

Well like i said, if people want to think im racist they’re free to do so.