Forgot to add some illegals are fighting to become lawyers. Yeah, this country is fucked.
you cannot tarnish an entire people from the actions of a few , thats extremely narrow minded .
i by no means support illegal immigration . but i wont ever side with pure ignorance no matter the point the person in question is defending .
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No it’s not, from anger? Yes, but i don’t hate Mexicans. You’re getting as bad as left wingers, with the whole" you’re a racist hater".
[/quote] you give off the impression you hate them . by using such language as this
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7135, topic:21032”]
You’re getting as bad as left wingers, with the whole" you’re a racist hater".
[/quote] not at all . i want a grown up debate about these issues from both sides , so that proper measure can be put in place . people who use your language damage our progress because all you do is feed the left wing and forever mark our point of view with hatred .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7135, topic:21032”]
Every time i bring up illegal immigration, i bring up valid points. Jobs, economy, disease, them getting benefits ect.
[/quote] but you always jump too "mexicans this mexicans that "
the mexicans are not the fucking problem . the problem is your government .
i dont for one minute blame any migrant , legal or illegal for seeking a better life . i blame the policy makers for providing the opportunity for these issues to arise
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Aside from murder THESE ARE NOT ACTIONS of the few. They are all guilty of this period. Otherwise they would not be called illegal immigrants.
So you don’t think the people in that video are destructive animals? look at what the fuck they are doing for gods sake.
I’m starting to think you’re trolling at this point.
Yes Mexicans swarm the border every year. Mexicans take jobs every year ect. There are not droves of people coming in from other countries.
Remember when you used to say “Polish people this and polish people that” Your hypocrisy is astounding.
Of course the government is also to blame. But THEY make the fucking choice to brake the laws, and THEY don’t want to face the consequences.
That sure is rich coming from you.
“I am so tired of these illegals! They are so arrogant, steal into our Country then place demands on us! Demand we change our laws to suit them, demand in State tuition, demand drivers license, just who do they think they are?”
This comment pretty much sums up my attitude.
“Next week is Thanksgiving, where families are reuniting to celebrate. Mine possibly will be separated tomorrow,” the women, Ana Canenguez, said in a statement issued by activists. “I don’t want to be separated from my children.”
If YOU CHOOSE to abandon your own kids, that’s not OUR fault! Shame on you for even thinking of leaving your kids alone to “fend” for themselves Don’t you care about them, or has their usefulness to YOU been exhausted since YOUR country won’t pay to to have them!
Take your illegitimate spawn with you! They aren’t our responsibility If you didn’t have the morals of an alley cat, you wouldn’t have so many to lie about being sad to leave! Take them with you and make a better life in your own country. Make it better for your kids you claim to love so much! Build YOUR country and stop destroying ours!"
Another spot on comment.
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they’re illegal because they couldnt get a visa to work . through cost or whatever reason . that doesnt make them sub human .
if they could be legal they would be
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So you don’t think the people in that video are destructive animals? look at what the fuck they are doing for gods sake.
[/quote] no i dont . i think they’re desperate people trying to survive .
does that mean i want to open the borders and let them all in ? not in a million years . as we dont have the room or money to support them .
like i said , logical arguments . not "they’re all animals "
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I’m starting to think you’re trolling at this point.
[/quote] i can assure you i am not . people using your language have hurt the right wing for years , instead of hearing our logical argument all they hear is people like YOU spreading hate and rubbish , so people become scared to support our ideals in-case they’re associated with your views .
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Remember when you used to say “Polish people this and polish people that” Your hypocrisy is astounding.
[/quote] maybe you should of read what i was saying . let me repeat for you .
the eastern European immigrants are allowed in in the hundreds of thousands at a time . often sticking in groups of immigrants (this goes for immigrants from all nations ) meaning they dont get integrated in to our society instead remain in “ghettos” as such . this has a knock on effect in what they charge to do a job , as they dont understand what an Englishmen would charge for the same job because they have not integrated correctly .
thus meaning they often under price and over time drive wages down hugely damaging the lives of British families .
in a controlled immigration system this would not happen as the majority of workers in all sectors would be British , the polish man would work with brits so he would be integrated into our society , understand the value of things in the UK and thus not drive down wages as he would demand the same as the British man .
do not mistake that for hatred of the polish or any other immigrant , this is down to their ignorance of British culture and worth of things in the UK .
in a controlled environment they can adapt and integrate , in an uncontrolled environment it becomes much harder .
no your government is 100% to blame . if it was strict on them the issue would be a non-issue . same in my countries case .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7140, topic:21032”]
That sure is rich coming from you.
[/quote] do not mistake my sense of humour for my true beliefs and opinions.
a wise man once said
"dont hate the player , hate the game " 
like this , logical arguments not hatred
again , logical and sensible .
this guy best sums up my point of view
Ahaha oh my god, please tell me you’re trolling. I never once said they were inferior beings, or were subhumans and you fucking know it.
So they need to destroy things in order to survive?
So you think what they’re doing in that video, is normal acceptable behavior? The U.K must be much more fucked up than i thought.
What language? I called people destroying shit animals and that makes me a racist?
What hate am i spreading? You’re worse than a fucking SJW idiot at this point.
You were saying Polish people come here, leech off Britain and then fuck off back to their own country after a few years. But if i say the same thing about Mexicans I’m a racist.
They are breaking the law period. They have plenty of blame attached. They choose to leave their country, they choose to brake the law period. Even if the government put a decent border up, i guarantee you they would still try to come here.
Racist racist racist.
Thats all you are. You stereotype Americans all the time. You hurt the right wing you racist.
but you create the perception of that being your belief with your language .
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So they need to destroy things in order to survive?
[/quote] people in desperation do whatever is necessary to survive .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7146, topic:21032”]
So you think what they’re doing in that video, is normal acceptable behavior? The U.K must be much more fucked up than i thought.
[/quote] for starters thats in france . we are not letting them in .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7146, topic:21032”]
is normal acceptable behavior?
[/quote] no its not . hence why we are not letting them in .
come here illegally and you will be deported , simple as that . but will i be dragged into slagging this people off ? no i will not .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7146, topic:21032”]
What language? I called people destroying shit animals and that makes me a racist?
[/quote] when have i ever accused you of being racist ? i said
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7146, topic:21032”]
So they need to destroy things in order to survive?
[/quote] when trying to survive . the laws of the land or treating things correctly rank quite low on your list of priorities .
my point is why has the EU allowed this situation to develop in the first place .
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What hate am i spreading? You’re worse than a fucking SJW idiot at this point.
[/quote] your argument consists of 3 layers
- fucking mexicans
- lazy job stealing cunts
- shit animals
how can you ever hope to change anything like that ? use reason and logic . change the system . the people are not the issue . the system is the issue it needs changing.
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You were saying Polish people come here, leech off Britain and then fuck off back to their own country after a few years.
[/quote] not quite in that tone but yes , correct . do i hate the polish for doing so ? no i dont not . i hate the system for allowing them to do so .
if i could go to poland work 2 years flat out and return fucking minted and live like a king i would be on the first plane available .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7146, topic:21032”]
They are breaking the law period. They have plenty of blame attached. They choose to leave their country, they choose to brake the law period. Even if the government put a decent border up, i guarantee you they would still try to come here.
[/quote] then scream at your fucking government to enforce the law .
sitting on your arse going "fucking mexicans " changes fucking nothing .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7146, topic:21032”]
But if i say the same thing about Mexicans I’m a racist.
[/quote] again ive never accused you of being racist .
Again i guess stating facts = racism with you. I see what they do, and i use it in arguments, so that makes me a racist.
In what way will destroying peoples property increase your chances of survival. I guess the Ferguson rioters were just doing what they needed to do to survive.
You seem to think they’re doing nothing wrong, and they’re destroying things for survival.
You said i hate Mexicans, you claimed i said illegals were sub humans, and that i spew hate speech, you were completely implying I’m a racist SJW style.
Again what does destroying someones property have to do with survival?
Nope ive brought up them using our benefits, taking jobs, causing crime, hurting the economy. You’re just a bleeding heart liberal who calls people racist for disagreeing with you.
And i don’t hate Mexicans. One of my good friends is Mexican, he was born here, and his parents came here LEGALLY.
I will vote for people who want to build a proper border.
You’re right voting does, which i plan on doing.
You’ve been going full SJW mode, saying i hate Mexicans because i’m against illegal immigration.
again when have i accused you of being racist ?
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I guess the Ferguson rioters were just doing what they needed to do to survive.
[/quote] if the point was north you just went very far south . completely changed the situation . my view on Ferguson is quite simple . lock them all up .
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You seem to think they’re doing nothing wrong, and they’re destroying things for survival.
[/quote] when did i say this ?
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7148, topic:21032”]
You said i hate Mexicans, you claimed i said illegals were sub humans, and that i spew hate speech, you were completely implying I’m a racist SJW style.
[/quote] no i was not . i was saying your tone and language can give this perception . i did not say it was what i concluded from your language .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7148, topic:21032”]
Again what does destroying someones property have to do with survival?
[/quote] again you’re now talking about a completely different situation .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7148, topic:21032”]
Nope ive brought up them using our benefits, taking jobs, causing crime, hurting the economy. You’re just a bleeding heart liberal who calls people racist for disagreeing with you.
[/quote] again i have never called you racist .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7148, topic:21032”]
And i don’t hate Mexicans. One of my good friends is Mexican, he was born here, and his parents came here LEGALLY.
[/quote] again i never said you hate Mexicans i said your language can give that perception . damaging your argument all together as people wont take you seriously . so i suggested you toned down the language when discussing these topics and keep the topic broad and formal . and dont bring specific groups to point . this way we dont give the perception of picking on a single particular group and our view is taken seriously and we advance towards a better system .
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I will vote for people who want to build a proper border.
[/quote] good .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7148, topic:21032”]
You’re right voting does, which i plan on doing.
[/quote] correct , im glad to hear it .
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You’ve been going full SJW mode, saying i hate Mexicans because i’m against illegal immigration
[/quote] no i have not . again you’re creating a situation in your head which does not actually exist
I said the people in the video that @ProkyBrambora linked, were acting like animals. Your response was people do what they need to do to survive.
You do not hardly tone down the language when we talk about things like this. You get just as fiery and angry as i do.
You said all i do is personally attack Mexicans without brining up the damage immigration does to the economy. You heavily implied i’m racist.
some confusion then . im unable to watch his video . i was under the impression you was talking about the one i posted of the camp in Calais .
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You do not hardly tone down the language when we talk about things like this. You get just as fiery and angry as i do.
[/quote] no . i dont . thats me pissing about .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7150, topic:21032”]
You said all i do is personally attack Mexicans without brining up the damage immigration does to the economy. You heavily implied i’m racist.
[/quote] no i did not .
note how i said " can be perceived as such " and not " i found your argument racist "
because i personally did not . but many others would thus wouldnt take your actual factual points seriously
Nice I like that one.
Now they need one for philosophers and include thinking.
I see @SirWarriant went full retard on you today. That whole subject of Perception, intention, and implication is tough one.
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I see you didn’t read the conversation again.
Once again we come back to, my perceptions are wrong, yours are right, and I’m retarded.
No when we have serious conversations, you use colourful language just as much as me.
Claiming my arguments only consist of racial slurs and hate towards Mexicans, you then claimed i said all illegal immigrants were sub humans.
How in gods name is this not accusing me of being a racist? You claimed i call other races lower than me and lesser beings, that is the very definition of racism.
You said that once or twice, you then tried to say all i did was sling out racial rants about Mexicans.
Not enough gun control in UK.
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What’s with the fucking knives? Shouldn’t they be imprisoned for having the knives?
What’s there? The video didn’t work for me.