so the north still took power therefore the deaths were pointless
so the 2 million deaths helped to achieve there war objective
Incorrect the U.S goal was to stop the North from invading the south. That and peace were achieved. All was good so the U.S left. As soon as they left another war broke out between the North and South one the U.S had no part in.
exactly the part about how many they killed doesnt matter .
That helped them complete their objectives. All they had to do was kill anyone who came on their land and they did that so i would say it does matter.
let me just say this back to you
the us objective was to stop the north taking the south .
but the north did take the south . but you still won…right
you do not have to kill to defend just make the cost high so they retreat as the vietcong did , made the war costly for you so you pulled out leaving just the south Vietnamese army to be defeated which was achieved .
The fighting ended in the treaty of Paris. They were both their own separate countries. So the U.S having accomplished their objectives left Vietnam. They no longer had any objectives related to Vietnam. Then when the U.S was no longer in Vietnam fighting broke out between the North and South the U.S was not part of this second war. The north eventually defeated the South but America was not part of it.
No the war ended. It was over period. The U.S did not leave mid war. There was a peace treaty. The North declared War a few months later the U.S was not involved when the South fell.
If you want to call Vietnam a defeat go ahead. But lets say that North Korea invaded South Korea today and won and the U.S and U.K stayed out of it. Would you say that North Korea beat the U.S and U.K???
wasnt ratified by senate stands for jack shit . also it was more of a cease fire allowing you to save face as you ran away from a fight , you lost the war deal with it
no because they were never engaged in fighting ,
the peace treaty of paris had no practicable meaning and was never followed is was a ceasefire that didnt hold and allowed the us to pull out and save face
“he Paris Peace Accords had little practical effect on the conflict"
words of the south vietmainse government
"At the time of the peace agreement the United States agreed to replace equipment on a one-by-one basis. But the United States did not keep its word. Is an American’s word reliable these days? The United States did not keep its promise to help us fight for freedom and it was in the same fight that the United States lost 50,000 of its young men”
signed in January north captured south in april … great peace treaty that won hahaha
Well if you want to go there then the U.S cant a lose war if its not at war. There was never an official declaration of war against the North so i guess we were never even part of Vietnam 
Saying something over and over wont make it true.
Well when the North defeated the south the U.S wasn’t engaged in the fighting either.
Yeah i agree America betrayed the South by giving them false hope and not going back in when they were attacked. We should have gone back in but we didn’t. Doesn’t change the fact that we were not part of the war when the south lost. They were doing just fine when we were. The war was no longer going when the U.S left so your argument that “we lost” is invalid. It started up again when the U.S was gone.
see you know you lost it your just trying to find an excuse 
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Well when the North defeated the south the U.S wasn’t engaged in the fighting either
[/quote] yes you were , you just wasnt involved in the final months because you retreated , you cant retreat midway through a battle and when your ally gets defeated turn and say you actually won because you wasnt on the field anymore .
We’re getting close to the number of posts that the knife thread has 
Neither side won. Both agreed to peace. Then the North started the fighting again the U.S choose not to get involved in another conflict. The second conflict was more of a second Vietnam war that the U.S was not in.
No the U.S was not all ground troops were pulled out after the peace treaty because the war was supposed to be over. Pretty much all financial aid was cut off from the south as well. The U.S left in 1972 the South wasn’t defeated until 1975. So they fought without us for a while.
ohh please save us the bollocks the fighting never stopped in practical terms and the treaty was never rectified by the senate
no more than a cease fire that never held
The fighting did end though up until a few months later. But the South fought a few years on its own. The souths defeat was not Americas defeat. Had America gone back in the NVA would have gotten their asses kicked once again and we would probably have a simular situation to the Koreas. Or north Vietnam would have been buried under radioactive ash which would have probably triggered a nuclear apocalypse because Russia had over 3,000 troops and 4,000 officers stationed in the North.
It seems Russia’s not the only advancing tech in their militaries.