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I just checked and apparently Oregon has background checks on guns, so i really don’t know how in the fuck this guy got his guns. I’m willing to bet they were his parents guns.

calm down there lad . i didnt make a comment in regards to the video i simply posted it .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7761, topic:21032”]
Second of all i was referring to the way the British government made citizens hand in their guns when strict gun control was put into place
[/quote] you will have to source me there . as our controls were slowly introduced of a century . not an over night thing at all

i actually agree with this speech alot . its the main one that changed my mind hugely on the issue . although i still believe guns need to be controlled in some manor through a licence . same as a car

Well don’t post his bullshit, his show is satire, and he’s a complete moron. He always goes on about how Cops are racist.

When they banned hand guns did they not tell the people to turn them in?

nope , they were fazed out over a number of years , a large number did hand them in , during the first year . but no police did not storm their houses and take the guns away . they simply stopped issuing certificates and papers for them .

he does hold a valid point when he says you have to do something . he offers no actual direction in what to do however , certainly didnt scream for gun bans

So you can still own pistols in the U.K?

From what i understand you were told to hand in your pistols or go to jail. I know for a fact this happened in Australia, the real life Crocodile Dundee refused to give up his guns and was shot by police after he took down 3 of them.

there is NO pistol ban as such . no law states you cant own a pistol . it states the weapons barrel cannot be less than 6 inches . so people simply stick a longer barrel on them .

(for the sake of the argument however i will call it the pistol ban . )

when the ban was introduced in 1997 it meant they would no longer issue a certificate to own a pistol . HOWEVER if you already had a certificate , you was allowed to run that down and keep the pistol during this time , then have it decommissioned or whatever .

so if you applied a got a certificate to own a pistol in early 1996 you would still be able to hold on to that pistol legally for the full six years that the certificate is valid .

so they didnt cancel anyone’s licencees they simply stopped issuing new ones

nope . this is not true

That’s the bullshit statement always issued by the left. " We don’t want to take your guns" yes they fucking do. They are constantly trying to ban the Ar-15, and now I’m sure they’ll come after hand guns. The people who write gun control legislation are always saying they want a full ban.

That is why people like my self will never give an inch of ground when it comes to gun control.

So after that six years is up you’re now in possession of an illegal fire arm. So if you don’t turn it in you’re a criminal.

yes in theory . unless of course you have some brains and alter the pistol to suit the new laws before the six years is up or sell it .

the person in the video (who i have never watched before ) says himself he doesnt know what should be done

So you’re now a felon, so yes your government criminalized people for owning hand guns period.

What if you can’t alter the pistol or can’t afford to? Your options are turn it in or risk being caught with an illegal fire arm.

Selling an illegal fire arm? That sounds like Prison to me.

He was heavily implying that there should be gun control, and he is a known gun control advocate.

RT is Russian propaganda.

Labor protections are much stronger in Germany than in US.

I’m pretty sure ive seen you link RT articles before…

i doubt you would be convicted of anything . our justice system is no where near as harsh as yours . and it would be done by a jury at worst case . it would completely depend on the situation .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7774, topic:21032”]
What if you can’t alter the pistol or can’t afford to? Your options are turn it in or risk being caught with an illegal fire arm.
[/quote] sell it before hand or have it decommissioned

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7774, topic:21032”]
Selling an illegal fire arm? That sounds like Prison to me.
[/quote] wouldnt be illegal because you would still have a certificate . also if you was to sell it to a major weapons company , they would have a section 5 certificate which allowed them to trade and keep any fire arm whatsoever .

also people do this regularly when they inherit a weapon they cant legally posses from a family member . they can legally go and sell that weapon

Yeah that’s why an 80+ year old man is facing prison because he had a legally owned shotgun in his car…

So you have no choice, its the epitome of a gun grab, sure they might not bust your doors down and take them but they back you into a corner.

Sounds just like Australia, they were told to hand them in, then the government destroyed them all.

for starters is was an illegal shotgun , secondly he just had it loaded thrown on the back seat . when it should be in a case .

never the less a harsh line to be taken but i doubt he will go away for it .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:7778, topic:21032”]
So you have no choice, its the epitome of a gun grab, sure they might not bust your doors down and take them but they back you into a corner.

Sounds just like Australia, they were told to hand them in, then the government destroyed them all.
[/quote] well not really . you could have up too 6 years to sort it out . in which time you can shoot and do whatever with the pistol or move to northern Ireland or isle of white where they are still legal as well as being able to get a CC licence

He was 80+ years old and probably losing his mind. You think he should be sent away for that?

So your options are move, go to prison, or get rid of it.

no i dont and he wont be . we have jury here . be down to them and i cant see them sending him away . the media just headline it in a way that it seems he is going down . like this

"80 YEAR OLD MAN FACING 10 YEARS IN PRISON FOR SHOTGUN IN CAR "

what they dont tell you is he has not and likely wont be prosecuted