so you have to pay end of . here we work off the basis everyone is by right entitled to health . you shouldnt have to pay for that .
as i say our issue is we have turned into a international health service . therefore our hospitals are over crowded by majority non British citizens . hence the massive waiting times . but i cant fault the actual treatment from my own personal experiences . admittedly if i needed an operation i would go private as ive done in the past .
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Judging by who’s standards? The fact that people go to other countries for treatment is usually an indication of a poor health care system.
Here it’s not cheap, but you certainly get what you pay for.
[/quote] from my own experience . ive never had an issue with the NHS apart from waiting times . ive used private and public . in terms of treatment , there wasnt much difference . where you see the difference is in the little things such as waiting times (none of any real length in private ) , the beds are a fuck ton better , food is better , and subtle things like that .
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Most high paying jobs require some form of collage education, i would say you are the exception and not the norm.
[/quote] no they dont , a common misperception . people always miss the "or relevant experience " part .
people have this stupid idea that you go to college/uni , come out and get 100k a year job within 2 weeks .
no way . in reality they come out . cant find a job , end up working in costa for 6 months . every employer gives them the same "you dont have any experience , im sorry we are not interested " then they go and work for free for another year .
they go back to an employer , and get offered a job around the pay range of £25k a year then spend the next 10 years working their way up to about 60k and above .
where as someone leaving school at 15/16 (thats when high school ends for us ) goes out gets a pretty low grade job in a company earning about £14k a year . but they’re learning and thats not bad for a 16 year old anyway . by 18 they are on about 20k a year and have 2 years experience . by the time they hit 20 they have 4 years experience in their chosen field .
they can then go to their employer and say "ok i want to do this , but i dont have uni qualifications , but i do have 4 years experience in a similar area . "
that individual with 4 years experience is a FAR FAR FAR better option to take on than some knob head thats wasted 6 years of their life at higher education . learning about some bollocks that has no relevance to the job in question .
so now the person who left school "early " can go into a higher tied job at 20 and have no debts and be 2 years ahead of a uni student (normally finish uni by about 22 ) and get picked for more promotions because they have more experience .
higher education is the biggest con being sold to kids these days . dont fucking bother get a job and learn the field and you will find so much more success than people that pick the natural , lazy option of staying with school . because all them nights out sound so much more appealing than work .
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Well what careers did they pick? If they’re making poor money doing what they went to school for, they either picked a low paying career, or haven’t gotten the job that they went to school for.
[/quote] i have 2 friends in the finance sector . they earn about 40k a year (29 years old ) one of my close friends works for the ministry of justice . earns about 50k ish also my age . and a few other of my friends just do regular office jobs for insurance companies etc they earn less than 40k . but they have been working for a fews now .
the average wage for someone who has just left uni here is 24k a year .
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haven’t gotten the job that they went to school for.
[/quote] this is the problem . most people go to university here with no fucking idea of what they want to do .
when someone goes . "i want to become a lawyer so im going to uni to study law " i can understand it . but when i hear people (the vast majority ) going "no idea what i want to do , just going to go to uni and do a maths course "
i just think "you fucking idiot ".
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Yes people are lazy. The high school drop out rate in the U.S is climbing higher and higher. It’s almost as if graduating high school is seen as a rare achievement now a days.
[/quote] that doesnt make people lazy . i think the lazy option is to carry on with school these days . in the UK a good 60% of people go to uni .
so when someone says "i went to university " well fucking done so did the other 2000 applicants . what do you offer they dont ?