Somthing like this is more plausible than an Alaskan invasion. Our southern border is so undefended its pathetic.
thats the whole point of a rapid strike the defending force is caught off guard and all supply routes blocked .
im afriad its a little more complicated than "yea come on through " certain ground rules and routs must be agreed . are you going to stop at any point ? and said points worked through i would estimate this would likely take a full day or two to sort which in the grand scheme of things is no problem as it would take longer to build a picture then organise a counter attack based on the picture you have drawn up . be least a week before any real counter attack is carried out by the US forces . much shorter notice for air assets to be called into action and begin hitting russian forces .
no US general is going to commit is troops to a fight where he doesn’t know his opponent or how many he is facing .
just think for a moment the shear panic that would be caused by multiple radar systems going down and US bases screaming that they are under attack by an unknown force and this all happening at the same sort of time .
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The nearest Russian base would still be over 1,000 miles away and a build up of troops in the bearing sea would cause alarm for the American military
[/quote] this is why i said FOB would be constructed .
it would be no harder than it would be for americans to supply due to lack of roads meaning russia has very few areas it has to concentrate on to block supplies and reinforcements .
however i agree russia would find it hard to supply a very large force however dont get carried away here im not suggest a full scale invasion of the US im suggesting a land grab of Alaska .
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Right but that’s if they even have taken Alaska yet. It would be almost impossible for them to get all the way there undetected and steamroll the American forces defending there. Troops would most likely be sent to reinforce the defenders.
[/quote] like i said no us general will commit troops blindly . the bases would fall against a determined force . and russia would secure the important supply routes before the initial assault on the bases using special operations units .
the initial contacts i have no doubt russia would win due to the fact that the US wouldnt have a clue or be even ready to defend .
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Doubt full why would a giant ass landing force coming from Russia be mistaken as a U.S troops.
[/quote] giant ass ? no a division size along with special forces would be all thats needed initially and that easily mistaken for US military exercises .
chuck and his buddies are not for one minute going to be expecting a russian attack force are they .
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Not sure what you mean by this.
[/quote] russia would establish supply lines before they even attacked .
of course this is plainly for enjoyment of thinking about how they could go about it .
besides imagine if he came out and said "yep gonna invade it next week mate "
yea but your southern border is much easier to defend and supply than alaska which your not connected to by land
i think the greatest danger the US faces is its self and my nation also suffers from this . we see any invasion so unplausble that we are practically unprepared for any such attack so if one did take place the sheer panic of whats going on would render us fucked
the white house and pentigon if the US was invaded 
They would have to get very far into Alaska to cut off the supply routes. Not to mention the U.s navy could cut their supply routes over the bearing sea.
Yeah the Canadians are going to dig their heels in when hostile Russian army is at their back door.
Yeah i dont think it would be a very big mystery if a hostile army with Russian uniforms and flags on their ships were attacking Alaska.
Our navy would be able to take control over the Bearing sea in this case and all Russian supplies cut off. Mean while cargo planes, cargo ships, cars ect move supply’s to the defending American troops. If they did occupy Alaska how ever they would be in range of all long range missiles off shore carrier strikes air strikes and they would have to deal with a huge insurgency. If Russian wanted Alaska they would have to take the lower 48 as well.
Im sorry Russia’s not getting an invasion force to the coast of Alaska without setting off the alarm which would give the defenders time to prepare. There is far to much activity in the bearing sea along with U.S ships patrolling those waters. Even if they did make it to land they would see them coming from miles away. they would land in a populated areas like you said to take out the supply routes.
I find it highly unlikely that no one at all would find this suspicious and report it.
In Alaska? My comment said that any Russian advance into Alaska could be stopped with some explosives and a mountain overlooking a pass with too much snow.
The U.S spends an extreme amount on defense so im pretty sure they don’t find an attack unplausable but i found the video amusing.
abolsutly . a special forces strike force would be dropped behind us lines by parachute or helicopter though way ahead of the main force .
as for US navy . you’re right the US clearly is going to dominate in the sea’s which is why russia would have a limited period to capture a major airfield . although a us fleet would get attack from both coast lines as russia would set up a defence shield around there supply route . how well that would hold i simply couldnt answer as there systems are untested as is the us navies capability of defending against them .
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Yeah the Canadians are going to dig their heels in when hostile Russian army is at their back door.
[/quote] thats not the point . its the legal side of it . the legal process has to be carried out .
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Yeah i dont think it would be a very big mystery if a hostile army with Russian uniforms and flags on their ships were attacking Alaska.
[/quote] flags would most likely be removed as they were in Crimea .
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Our navy would be able to take control over the Bearing sea in this case and all Russian supplies cut off. Mean while cargo planes, cargo ships, cars ect move supply’s to the defending American troops. If they did occupy Alaska how ever they would be in range of all long range missiles off shore carrier strikes air strikes and they would have to deal with a huge insurgency. If Russian wanted Alaska they would have to take the lower 48 as well.
[/quote] of course but the US would also be in range . however the US would HUGELY out number russia’s force . so its down to how well they dig in and can supply the force
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Im sorry Russia’s not getting an invasion force to the coast of Alaska without setting off the alarm which would give the defenders time to prepare. There is far to much activity in the bearing sea along with U.S ships patrolling those waters. Even if they did make it to land they would see them coming from miles away. they would land in a populated areas like you said to take out the supply routes.
[/quote] an invasion force doesnt look like D-day . much smaller than you imagine russia special forces would be dropped ahead and secure the main areas . and decrease the risk to the main force . it would be done in rapid stages .
phone signal in the wildness of alska i think not
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In Alaska? My comment said that any Russian advance into Alaska could be stopped with some explosives and a mountain overlooking a pass with too much snow.
[/quote] no through sibera and to the coast line opposite Alaska .
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The U.S spends an extreme amount on defense so im pretty sure they don’t find an attack unplausable but i found the video amusing.
[/quote] but most of that is spent protecting other nations . no nation in this day an age apart from south korea and north korea are in a position to fight off a landing right away . forces would have to be organised etc
military’s dont work on the basis of grab your rifle and run at the enemy they’re run on intelligence and a vast array of information building a constant picture of would you will be facing around each corner , if this picture isnt established then no general in their right mind would commit his forces
anyway im growing bored of this particular discussion , just over 200 posts to go to our goal lets find something else to talk about
Im thinking they wouldn’t get very far in without being noticed or even being shot out of the sky by fighters.
All the U.S would have to do is destroy the major airfield and bam their cut off.
Sure they could have anti ship things in Siberia but in not in Alaska.
Still who else would be coming from that direction? It would most likely be spotted by a U.S patrol ship.
Right but they would need to set up these long range missiles artillery, ect mean while the U.S would already have these in place.
Sure but how would they fly helicopters in blow up major road ways and not get spotted by the populace? They would stick out like sore thumbs.
Actually the majority of the U.S military is at home right now. Around 1 million active in america and 800,000 in reserve. The troops stationed around the world number around 300,000.
Unfortunelty by the time you said this i had already typed all this up 
haha . i feel the urge to reply but i shall hold back 
we will hopefully never find out which one of us is right but i do enjoy these discussions . exploring what could be
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a quite interesting interview
especially the part about crimea at 11 minutes
I find him to be a bit of a hypocrite though. Complaining that the U.S military conducts drills in the black sea when Russian planes are constantly entering U.S air space. Also if that little stunt they did with shutting down one of our ships is true then he has little to complain about.
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from the 90’s until recently russia stopped their long range patrols almost completely and when they did conduct them they kept away however NATO has never stopped and has always conducted exercises in eastern europe . and have always kept troops in germany . i believe there are more british tanks stationed in germany than there are actually in the UK and with this anti missile shield that NATO want to install which has created a shit storm ever since its "announcement " so the west is hardly innocent here .
in my opinion we shouldnt be conducting exercises in the black sea as its asking for trouble , its like russia conducting exercises in the English channel or gulf of mexico .
lastly . russian plane do NOT enter US or any other other nations air space but their own . its something the media like to play with the words so it seems like they do but when you actually read into it you find that what they mean is russian planes have coming with a few hundred miles of US or whoever’s airspace causing that nation to scramble fighters to shadow the russian planes until they move further away .
so at all time the russians remain in international airspace in line with international law as NATO planes also do.
so this is generally just fear mongering and click bait from the media
As long as there are NATO member states (Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey), it is essential to conduct exercises there. Would you also argue that NATO states should not provide airplanes that guard the skies over Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania? These are all sovereign countries, they decided to become part of NATO and NATO decided to take them in. There is no good reason to back down from a Kremlin bully and throw them out of NATO - because that is what you are basically saying - no military exercises shows no preparedness and no willingness to defend.
That is not correct. NATO airplanes do not fly in the path of commercial airliners with their responders switched off. Especially the Nordic countries recently had a few cases of near misses of their commercial airliners with Russian planes over the Baltic sea.
The difference is that Germany has asked US to stay. Meanwhile all ex-communist countries ordered Russian troops to leave. Having the Ruskies out of the country was the No. 1 most important issue of the new Czechoslovak post-communist government after 1989.
Again, it is up to the sovereign states what kind of defensive capability they choose to have.
FYI, the public opposition to the missile shield components being placed in the Czech Republic (as long as they would be manned by US personnel and not the Czech Army) was one of the main reasons of the fall of the pro-shield Czech government in 2009 - during the Czech EU presidency.
I don’t remember US invading the Czech Republic for opposing the missile shield (before it was discarded by Americans in late 2009). I do remember however Russia invading Ukraine for choosing to dance with Brussels instead of being under the heel of Kremlin.
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Daily Palate Cleanser (cause yall talk about so much shit)
Russia conducts plenty of patrols with nuclear submarines barely 100 miles off the east coast of the U.S.
Nope there have been plenty of times when Russia has entered U.S air space uninvited.
Also you always defend Russia no matter what so are you constantly watching Moscow propaganda news or something? NATO is the big bad guy in your mind and Russia is the poor innocent country who has never done anything wrong in their history. I wish the allies would have kicked the living shit out of Russia after world war 2 and limited the size of their military. 60 million people would still be alive today and they wouldn’t have suppressed half of Europe for around 50 years.
But im sure the Russian holocaust was just the western media spinning lies and fear mongering right? Im sure if you were alive back then you would have said that because Russia can obviously do no wrong. In your mind its ok for Russia to invade Ukraine but the U.S and U.K are big bullies for invading Iraq.
No. its not that i like or dislike russia its that i respect them as what they’re a world power with one of the most powerful armed forces on the planet . make no mistake if russia ever threatned the UK i would gladly join the front line , my loyalty is firmly with the UK and the queen .
i believe the world would be a better place without NATO at all as all NATO does is create a east-west divide . and the feeling that russia is our enemy when they’re not .
we are fed constant propaganda in films, games , news that russia are always the bad guys and how putin is a dictator when he isnt .
russians are currently enjoying the most freedom they have ever had and up until recently the nation was on the rise .
now we have attempted to stick our noses in ukraine knowing full well the kind of response russia would have to this and then have the cheek to turn round and say russia is the aggressor .
if you can seriously sit there and say the blame is all on russia’s shoulders then i think its you that has been watching to much US propaganda. im not saying its all NATO fault either . i think its both sides fault and a result of this continuing divide between the two sets of world powers
what i would like to see is NATO scrapped and replaced with an international security force . in which are all the permanent member’s of the UN security council including both china and Russia and any other nation which wants to join .
this would allow us to maintain a force willing to deal with international issue requiring force . while at the same time bridging this east and west divide bringing all the worlds main powers together and i think the world would be a much safer and less tense place .
the cold war is over , russia isnt going to invade europe therefore there is no need for NATO
Russia is not your friend despite what you think. Putin can play the victim all he wants and claim that NATO are big bullies.
Ive seen you say far more positive things about about Putin than your own queen.
Putin not a dictator thats a good one. Im starting to doubt you’re even British you’re probably a Russian spy who was planted to spread pro Russian propaganda and anti American propaganda. I used to think Putin was this swell guy too but the truth is hes corrupt. You can say its western propaganda all you want.
Like Russia stuck their noses in Ukraine?
Im not blaming Russia for anything really. I dont care if Putin occupies Ukraine hell it seems as if the Ukrainians want it. What i did have a problem with is Putin playing the victim and complaining about how NATO conducts drills in the black sea.
Well what a lovely Utopia and you say the New World Orders a myth. No thanks if i had my way i would do away with NATO the U.N the E.U and all that other crap. I dont like that they are dividing the world up into different regions its literally the NWO in a nut shell.
I hate pretty much all major news in the U.S CNN, Fox , NBC, BBC. Fuck them all they are lying shit stains who lie constantly and are biased.
Anyway i just wish that the U.S didn’t have to deal with silly European shenanigans. I prefer isolationism because we are hated by pretty much everyone of our allies until they need our help or money.
Just sort of rambling at this point i think the U.S should annex Canada because theirs nothing they could really do about it.
what expirence have you ever had with russia which would suggest they’re not your friend .
i respect putin and i respect the queen . i swore an oath to the queen and its one i intend to keep .
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Putin not a dictator thats a good one. Im starting to doubt you’re even British you’re probably a Russian spy who was planted to spread pro Russian propaganda and anti American propaganda. I used to think Putin was this swell guy too but the truth is hes corrupt. You can say its western propaganda all you want.
[/quote] what makes you think that ? the news ? you have never been to russia you have probably never even met a russian .
putin protects russia’s interests which is actually the main reason i respect him so much . he has a back bone and will stand up for what he believes in , i by no means agree with alot of what he actually says but i respect the fact he has a pair of bollocks and i wish the west had a leader like him .
everyone in a postion of power is corrupt you have said it yourself you think the US government is corrupt and spying on americans and driving tanks through you towns .
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Like Russia stuck their noses in Ukraine?
[/quote] both sides did
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Well what a lovely Utopia and you say the New World Orders a myth. No thanks if i had my way i would do away with NATO the U.N the E.U and all that other crap. I dont like that they are dividing the world up into different regions its literally the NWO in a nut shell.
[/quote] well thats your opinion then .
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Anyway i just wish that the U.S didn’t have to deal with silly European shenanigans. I prefer isolationism because we are hated by pretty much everyone of our allies until they need our help or money.
Just sort of rambling at this point i think the U.S should annex Canada because theirs nothing they could really do about it.
[/quote] just about somes your entire opinion up then doesnt it . need i say much more
maybe it should have occurred to you that the reason america is so hated is because you come out with quotes like that
ohh and id be on the front line of that one as well defending canada . most polite people on this god damn planet