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I wouldn’t throw this around loosely as you have proven that you are just as incapable of saying your country is inferior.

this lady is so fucking stupid.

Yeah she’s a crazy cunt. Apparently Christmas songs are sexist and some are even about date rape.

you got a source to back that up ?

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The U.S did help in Africa and they played a massive role in Europe
[/quote] never said they didnt

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Without U.S supplies the U.K would have no choice but to surrender to Germany
[/quote] got a source to back that up

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This next part is up for debate but in my opinion Germany wouldn’t be stretched thin on three fronts would go east with the bulk of their forces and defeat Russia. But had Russia still beaten Germany then the people in Europe would fair just as worse as they did under the Nazis. Japan had they not bombed Pearl harbor and kicked up a hornets nest would have taken over all of south east Asia just as they did in the real time line. But because the British surrendered to the Germans then Japan would steam role into India and the rest of the British controlled territories. But it was a good thing the U.S entered the war because no country at the time could match the industrial power and numbers the U.S had.
[/quote]do you have sources to back that opinion up . i have said it here before but i will say it again hitler had no plan to occupy the UK he wanted us to switch sides . as the nazis considered the British Aryan in nature

thats not calling them shit troops that in reference to the american soldiers undying habit of screaming “fuck yea !!” every time they hit the target . while this happens on a small scale in the british army its generally viewed as unprofessional and isnt encouraged .

The Japanese navy was solely defeated by the American navy along with almost all of the Japanese air force. They threw their most important units at the American advance because America had shown they could send long range bombers from their carriers to the mainland of Japan. More Japanese troops were killed in the battle of Okinawa then in the entire Burma campaign. The vast majority of Japanese troops were defending the islands. As i stated earlier it took around 10,000 Japanese troops to make 100,000 of the best troops in the world surrender. :smile: They needed the largest portions of their troops to fight America and they had only small numbers defending Burma, Singapore ect. During the battle of midway the entire Japanese air force was all but destroyed by American pilots and aircraft carriers. Look up the marinas great turkey shoot. The Japanese navy was destroyed by the American navy and a smaller Australian navy during the battle Leyte gulf.

So you’re saying the U.K could resist hitler with no gasoline, no food, and no ammunition? I always knew they were super soliders but this takes British troops to a whole new level.

Yeah thats just why he was bombing the living shit out of London and demanding the British surrender. Your own source even said hitler thought the British were “inferior” humans and he planed to kill about 20% of them to make an example of them defying him for so long. Hitler wanted a new world order he did not want Britain as allies he wanted them under his thumb.

You said up above that the British and Americans have separate operations. So you’re telling me you fought with enough American troops to know that the majority shout Fuck yeah when they kill someone?

@TheDivineInfidel i was just reading your comments on the video “the biggest guns money can buy”. You said Russia and China could invade Alaska with ease. But in your argument you didn’t once mention logistics, something that was your main argument int he Russia U.S war in Europe.
I’m very interested in hearing your response on this :sunglasses:

In where ? Not a clue what your on about to be honest .
I’ll reply to,your pervious post in the morning

Its a YouTube video by VICE called the biggest guns money can buy. Someone named George West in the comments was saying that Russia could easily take over Alaska. Might have been someone else with the name but they were saying things very similar to what you have said and they were from the U.K

I trust WH to do it right but im tired of the off topic conversation. Seriously guys why can’t we ever talk about glitter, unicorns, rainbows, and or faeries seriously yo?


Oh almost forgot about kittens.

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It a good video about the shield! :smile:

most likely was me haha but i cant remember what i said or find it

but yes they could , maybe not easily but was russia to build infrastructure in their east to the Bering Strait . set up a number of FOB’s and airfields they could cross the Bering Strait with relative ease . and supply a small force . no where near enough to take the whole of the US but alaska its self would suit russian troops more than US .
once in alaska there first objective would be to take a large airfield and they could do this buy attacking Elmendorf Air Force Base which would blind the US as a whole to whats going on as its also the HQ to the US army and air force in Alaska . IF and its only a IF , they managed to take this base with an element of surprise by moving fast then they would be in a position to start bringing in troops . to prepare for the US counter attack which would no doubt come however the US would have to get through canada which would create legal issues in its self slowing down a US response .

and there is only TWO US Airforce bases in Alaska . if you wanted to hit the US where it hurt Alaska would be the safest bet for russia . as its only has stationed there 24,000 active personel and of which just over 10,000 are front line combat troops , so you have a single divison there which taken by suprise could be swept aside by a Russian Arctic brigade or two which are being set up in russia and will include vehicles set up for artic warfare .
but of course this is providing the russian plan ran well . crossing the alaskain plains would be the biggest issue but russian troops are very well trained in artic warfare as Putin has a desire to take large parts of the artic circle for russia as its meant to be filled with undiscovered oil

And of course this would never happen in real life .but it COULD be done or at least they could have a fucking good crack at it
and i still cant find my comments on the video but i vaguely remember having this argument before.

this may sound total bullshit and out landish however its not so much so that the US feared the soviet union would do it in the 50’s

Thats the problem there’s really nothing that could supply a Russian invasion in Siberia. But there are plenty of Highways going into Alaska and there could be a steady stream of supply’s moving into Alaska at all times and the Russians would not have this.

You should look up what happened to the Japaneses when they took some islands in Alaska during world war 2. The locals were the ones who defeated them by using guerrilla tactics. The U.S could get a large number of troops up to Alaska in a short amount of time. Americas highways were designed for war time so troops could be moved across the country in large quantities in a number of hours.

I dont see how they possibly could. There is tons of activity in that area from fishing vessels to merchant vessles not to mention radar that would detect any sizable Russian force approaching.

Canada would let the U.S move through with troops because Canada would be in serious danger as well. There wouldn’t really be much Canada could do about if the U.S suddenly decided to move through their lands. But they would let the U.S.

Im guessing the rest would be national guard. The national guard is trained and equipped just as well as the the military is. National guard have fought in almost every major war the U.S has been in so they aren’t just worthless.

The siberian lands are mostly a tundra like terrain. Russia troops would have to cross over some of the tallest mountains in the world with over 20 feet of snow. All it would take to slow a Russian advance would be a few locals and some explosives and a mountain with too much snow on it.

Well yeah we also feared them coming over Greenland during the cold war. If you want to live this scenario just play operation Anchorage perhaps my favorite Dlc for Fallout 3 although in that its the Chinese invading.

Ill copy and paste it im 99% sure its you because they brought up the Russian anti air guns and their new body armor.

George West3 months ago

the US could be invaded right now but to pull it off would be hard and only russia is in the position to do it , straight through a lovely location called alaska , which plays to my theory why the US has never built alaska up because otherwise it would allow russia a back door in without having to face the might of the US navy but it could still be done , the force would have to land at Bering Land Bridge National Preserve once a foothold was established a channel of supplies could be got across rather quickly , the terrain would make it extremely difficult to move a large force but a well organised manoover under radio silence could indeed build a makeshift road to move the force along to a more built up area . once they were on solid ground and roads alska would fall within days which would send complete panic through the US high command , mean while a large force could be flown in , russian airforce moves in etc , plus likely china would be in and begin flooding troops in and attacking us targets in asia , invade south korea ,

you cant just drive through canada , they’re there own sovereign nation , of course they would allow it but you would have to seek legal consent which would take time .
only TWO main highways lead into alaska according to google maps :stuck_out_tongue: and there not what you would actually call highways

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Thats the problem there’s really nothing that could supply a Russian invasion in Siberia.
[/quote]i certainly agree , however it could be done . railways could be built , and airfields constructed . this would take years of preparation , certainly not something that could be done in a few weeks . but if they wanted they certainly could .

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You should look up what happened to the Japaneses when they took some islands in Alaska during world war 2. The locals were the ones who defeated them by using guerrilla tactics. The U.S could get a large number of troops up to Alaska in a short amount of time. Americas highways were designed for war time so troops could be moved across the country in large quantities in a number of hours.
[/quote] absolutely , but this would take time and any invasion force would be fully aware of this and would dig in to repel the immanent counter attack .
the US high command certainly wouldnt just race troops to Alaska , they would want a picture built first of exactly what and who is invading and their numbers . this would be done along side a troop build up INSIDE american territory. and russia would also be doing the same .
it certainly wouldnt be every man in his pick up charging for Alaska haha .

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I dont see how they possibly could. There is tons of activity in that area from fishing vessels to merchant vessles not to mention radar that would detect any sizable Russian force approaching.
[/quote] clearly like i said it wouldnt be easy however to ruling it impossible makes it possible . it would be SO outlandish and Unthinkable i think many fishing vessels would pass it off as us troops from a distance . as for radar. russia as do most top world powers have the capability to knock it out temporally also radar will not pick up ground forces . russia would have to rely hugely on special forces and air attacks to begin to blind the US defence systems much like we did with iraq .
i would love to say the US would see it coming but did they see crimea coming ? No certainly not infact it to took a good few hours of panic of "who are these guys " by which time russia has captured most of the main miltary strategic positions and surrounded the Ukrainian bases
im not for one minute saying any of this would succeed however they could having a good go at it and certainly panic the US government and in the fog of war get a foothold and possibly hold off for a while .

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Im guessing the rest would be national guard. The national guard is trained and equipped just as well as the the military is. National guard have fought in almost every major war the U.S has been in so they aren’t just worthless.
[/quote] no the rest were airforce personal
the national guard were included about 5,000 members
just had a look back at the source i used
ersonnel Totals

Army 8,897
Navy & Marine Corps 569
Air Force 13,406
Coast Guard 2,766
Active Duty Military 15,684
Reserve and National Guard 5,566
Total Personnel 24,016

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The siberian lands are mostly a tundra like terrain. Russia troops would have to cross over some of the tallest mountains in the world with over 20 feet of snow. All it would take to slow a Russian advance would be a few locals and some explosives and a mountain with too much snow on it.
[/quote] that would be dealt with in the year or years leading up to it not during the actual war

i think you would have just as much trouble supplying troops as russia would

It really wouldn’t take long. There is a Russian invasion force at Canada’s back door im pretty sure they would let U.S troops enter their land and they would probably send their own as well. And about the highways trucks make it up into Alaska all the time so im sure there would be a constant flow of supply’s from Canada or the U.S by air and land and sea.

Yeah but even with those railroads built it would take a lot longer for supply’s to reach the Russian lines then it would be for the American lines. The nearest Russian base would still be over 1,000 miles away and a build up of troops in the bearing sea would cause alarm for the American military

Right but that’s if they even have taken Alaska yet. It would be almost impossible for them to get all the way there undetected and steamroll the American forces defending there. Troops would most likely be sent to reinforce the defenders.

Doubt full why would a giant ass landing force coming from Russia be mistaken as a U.S troops. The amount of activity in that area means that more than one person would report a large naval force heading for Alaska.

Not sure what you mean by this.

The U.S is not Crimea.

Anyway Putin was asked about an Alaskan invasion and he said he had no desire to take Alaska.

there’s already tons of trucks that come back in forth from Alaska the U.S and Canada every year. Russia would have to get Supply’s from over 3,000 miles away (their nearest large city)
Not to mention Russia would have a hell of an insurgency on their hands if they did manage to take Alaska. The united states already supplys a large population in Alaska.

Also just found out the U.S has military ships patrolling those waters.