#8185

so how is the coverage in the US of the huge china and UK trade/investment deal ?

#8186

boris johnson v donald trump

could be one hell of a fight

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#8187

Wrestling makes me cringe its so staged.

#8188

Made a topic in the moderators forum thought Id share with you aswell.

[quote=“McWonderBeast”]

I have come to point that I need to take a break, this is something I do every so often to sort of “cleanse my consciousness”.

I will for time (I have no idea how long, could be a week could be a month its not really planned) not be using my computer or using my phone for anything other then texting and calling.

With that I won’t have access to the forums (Its too tempting to abuse to make an exception) so I will not be able to assist in moderating for the time being.

I feel bad for doing this just before an update but I have been putting it of to long and I need to take responsibility again get my “ness” back on track.

This is not a goodbye (always lurking the shadows watching) but because I do not know how long or to what affect it my absence will be I will not be offended if my moderator privileges are suspended.

I intend to begin this process October 25th, until then it will be business as usual. [/quote]

Its been fun, frustrating, educational, and certainly a unique experience. IDK when or if I will be back to the forums so if or until then have fun!

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#8189

Well if i don’t see you for a while, its been fun from arguing about wording, to mass murder in GTA. :smile:

For what it’s worth you’ve taught me about being more careful about what i type i think you’ll find i take longer to respond to posts and have less slip ups. :wink:

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#8190

Just a shame you’re still a thick cunt :wink:

I’ll see myself out

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#8191

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#8192

Ive heard pretty much nothing about it until now. I think ive seen some stuff on a youtube channel about China but thats about it.

The U.S media is too busy salivating over Hillary Clinton and calling Halloween racist, to report on things that are actually important. We usually get shafted in our deals with China, but ill form my opinion when i learn more about it.

#8193

Well i read the article. And i must say letting China which is known for hacking, stealing, and being agressive towards the U.S and its allies construct a nuclear power plant sounds like a bad idea. I mean if they some how had a way to control it when its finished they could use it as a weapon which could cripple the U.K.

#8194

they are not building it . they are funding 1/3 of the price as well as £30 bn worth of trade deals with us .

but your argument is the main one floating about at the minute . but it doesnt hold any basis .
they are offering their expertise on constructing it but not constructing it themselves .

say the plant was a company , china has brought 1/3 of the companies shares .

as well as that , we are making it easier for companies to invest/grow in each others nations . and for the UK to become china’s main western partner as well as their second largest outside investor

#8195

Their expertise ehehe. They’ve had over 20 accidents with nuclear power plants since they built their first one. Luckily none of them resulted in full blown melt downs but who knows? China has covered up events like that before like the high speed rail crash where they tried to bury the train before the press got there.

In fact Chinese investors recently backed a project to build a high speed train from LA to Vegas.
but not constructing it themselves .
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Still who knows? They would most likely have access to the construction project do not underestimate what they will do. It’s unlikely they would be able to slip something in but not impossible. And think of how small the U.K is and how much damage a melt down could cause.
The Chinese are not the kind of people you want to get in bed with its done nothing but cause the U.S trouble.

I do have one question though, why is the U.K not able to construct this on their own? I can understand the funding part but how do you not have the know how to make one?

#8196

indeed but of course we also have our own experts who wouldnt let anything dangerous pass …i hope :slight_smile:

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8195, topic:21032”]
I do have one question though, why is the U.K not able to construct this on their own? I can understand the funding part but how do you not have the know how to make one?
[/quote] we already have plenty of nuclear power plants … but we have not constructed a new one in well over a decade . this would be the first one for a while .

mainly its funding really . the power plant will be owned by edf energy which is actually a french based company but one of our largest supplies for electricity in the UK .
and why the Chinese are at it they have also offered their experts . but it will be built by British companies .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8195, topic:21032”]
The Chinese are not the kind of people you want to get in bed with its done nothing but cause the U.S trouble.
[/quote] this isnt so much a concern for us . its more for you .

china has in effect just bought the USA’s closest ally and partner . thus crippling the US ability to take on china .

the UK has now become china’s main western partner . their go to guy in the west . thus pushing the US out of the way . and we will also become china’s largest outside investor .

if china gets into bed with us . when china and the US have a argument . the US may not be able to count of its main partner to back it up as forcefully . As im sure you’re aware when either of our nations has a issue we first turn to each other for help before creating a broader coalition if needed .

if china breaks that link between us the US will be left turning to others like …france … yea not good .
it will also mean should the US want to sanction china , the UK wont support it because we wouldnt be able to afford it . this empowers china’s global power .

thus pushing it further towards the main super super power on the planet

#8197

in conclusion i think this is part of a giant fuck you from china to the US

#8198

I would hope so for your sake, think about the three gorges damn and their glass walk ways. All of their mega projects are disasters waiting to happen. A reactor explosion in the U.K would be absolutely devastating.

I honestly don’t like nuclear power. All it would take is one solar flare to turn the earth into a radioactive mess.

I wouldn’t really agree with that. The U.K has little relevance when it comes to us dealing with China. We are good friends with all the countries in the South China sea region Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Australia, Vietnam ect. Those are the countries we need to be able to take on China and project our power in the region.

Well as i covered we don’t really need the U.K in order to take on China. If we were talking about Russia i would agree with you.

That’s also why i favor isolationism. Allies are temporary, your friends today can easily become your enemies tomorrow.
“Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none.” -George Washington.

Well we can’t really afford to sanction them either, we need to stop relying so much on them.

China is a temporary success. They cannot keep going the way they are going, the communist part will be overthrown or they will run the country into the ground. China is running out of fresh water, suffers horrible pollution issues, and lacks resources in their country.

This why they are so hell bent on controlling the South China sea due to all the untapped resources lying there. But they cannot do that while the U.S and the other Pacific nations are defiant of them. Japan has made it clear they will defend their claims to that area and will go to war with China if need be.

China just suffers from too many issues right now, all of which prevent them from being super power. Hopefully they overthrow those communists bastards and take their country back. China is very much like the Soviet Union was in the late 80s powerful but unstable, and on the verge of collapse.

I think what is likely is massive democratic reforms through out the country within the next 50 years or so, which would lead to elections. The people there are becoming more and more bold protesting the Communist party on the streets. This is especially ballsy after what happened in Tianamen square.

#8199

other than south korea none of them nations would be in a position to support you like we can .

also none of them are members of the UN security council . which is paramount for any international effort . hence why i mentioned france earlier as they are the only other permanent member other than russia and china .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8198, topic:21032”]
Japan has made it clear they will defend their claims to that area and will go to war with China if need be.
[/quote] japan does not posses the forces needed to attack china . they have a defence force not an offensive military .

they are in the process of changing this but it will be decade or so before they would be in a position to do anything to china externally .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8198, topic:21032”]
China just suffers from too many issues right now, all of which prevent them from being super power. Hopefully they overthrow those communists bastards and take their country back. China is very much like the Soviet Union was in the late 80s powerful but unstable, and on the verge of collapse
[/quote] i dont know where you get your info from but china is far from collapse . they have suffered financial difficulties at current but their economy is still growing at 6% plus annually .

there is more chance of the US government getting over thrown than their is of china’s .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8198, topic:21032”]
lacks resources in their country.
[/quote] no they do not infact they have the most on the planet and are the leading mining nation . the issue is the rate they are burning through them , but thats an issue thats faces the entire globe not just china
but they will face a issue much before us . so your semi right here .

its worth noting , china is far from being actually communist . military and government wise they are but thats where it ends , when it comes to business they are far from communist . that have a massive ball of fuckery with communism and capitalism mixed in to one heap of fuck knows what

#8200

Wrong Japan, Taiwan, and the Philippines have really stepped up their militaries in recent years due to Chinas agression. This has given China an excuse to call them war mongers.

First off the goal would not be to attack mainland China, the fighting would take place in the South China sea, or the islands that China is claiming right on Japans door step. You’re thinking of Japan from 10 years ago they’ve really stepped up their game, and have a small but powerful offensive force for its size.

They would just need to hold out against China which they are capable of doing especially with U.S support.

Please read about their social issues. The people are tired of the Communist regime, the forced labor camps, the political arrests, the censorship ,the evictions. Chinas has probably the worst human rights issues out of any modernized country.

No no, they are running out of resources hence their expansion into the South China sea, they are extremely wasteful as well. They will be out of fresh water by 2020 and other materials that are vital to them. The water is so polluted it can’t even be used for industrial purposes.

This is the reason they are desperately trying to gain control of the south China sea.

The U.S has an abundance of natural resources left, fresh water is in issue for states like California but not the rest of the country.

Yes but their government is completely tyrannical. China doesn’t even have a military the communist party does, the military swears to protect the part not the people. China does shit just as slimy as North Korea but they are better at covering it up.

#8201

People who are being evicted usually burn themselves alive in protest, but this guy made home made rockets and actually made the government forces fuck off. :smile:

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#8202

I strongly recommend you check out this channel.

#8203

so you think , Taiwan , japan and the Philippines could offer you the same military support as the united kingdom could , come on now lets get serious :slight_smile:

japan does not posses the equipment to effectively support or deploy a force abroad and its people would not allow it , attitude is already hell bent against what its government is trying to do there in terms of making the japanese military more deployable .

japan could certainly hold its own if attacked but it has no means of projecting their power abroad . their military is purposely set up so it cant .

as for talwan its common knowledge as admitted by their minster of defence they could hold out for no longer than one month against a chinese attack .

china’s military is also modernising by the week . but at current they also have an issue with projecting their power . but they would be in a position to do so in the south china sea , anywhere beyond they would be wiped the floor with by the US …for now .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
Philippines have really stepped up their militaries in recent years due to Chinas agression
[/quote] the Philippines is currently ranked the 6th worst military force on the planet , in terms of organisation and equipment . as for their "vast " upgrades you talk of . laughable . £2 billion worth of investment into upgrading the miltary .

none these forces would offer and real partner in taking on china . they would be smaller powers reneforcing the US and its larger partner which is normal cases would be the UK .

to take on china you would need nuclear powers . your congress i doubt would warm to the idea of taking on china without your most trusted ally by your side .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
and have a small but powerful offensive force for its size.
[/quote] no they do not . that would be illegal under the japense constitution until about 2 months ago when they passed a bill allowing for the military to be deployed overseas . they could hold out perfectly fine however . they have a defensive force .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
Please read about their social issues. The people are tired of the Communist regime, the forced labor camps, the political arrests, the censorship ,the evictions. Chinas has probably the worst human rights issues out of any modernized country.
[/quote] i dont doubt for a second any of this .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
No no, they are running out of resources hence their expansion into the South China sea, they are extremely wasteful as well. They will be out of fresh water by 2020 and other materials that are vital to them. The water is so polluted it can’t even be used for industrial purposes.

This is the reason they are desperately trying to gain control of the south China sea.
[/quote] do you have sources for this claim .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
the military swears to protect the part not the people
[/quote] yes your point being ? i newer swore to protect the people either . neither do you in the US army .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
China does shit just as slimy as North Korea but they are better at covering it up.
[/quote] i dont doubt that

#8204

these were outlawed by the Chinese government last year .

funny enough the US has not . us prisoners are still liable for penal labour .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
The people are tired of the Communist regime
[/quote] this is hard to judge so i could neither disprove or prove that statement . surveys conducted by outside sources on Chinese citizens reveals the average chinky rates their government 8/10 . but experts support your opinion . but of course , china be the nation it is in terms of slagging off the government its hard to judge .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
the political arrests, the censorship ,the evictions.
[/quote] no different from any other country here .

there you posted a video of man fighting eviction by force . and i could post one for the US

whats the difference ?

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8200, topic:21032”]
Chinas has probably the worst human rights issues out of any modernized country.
[/quote] this is also a massive issue with our deal alot of people are calling for our government to raise this issue more .