at no point does he disagree with my point . he is talking about sinking Chinese ships outside of the Taiwan straight .
if china moved ships into the straight before war actually started and troops on the Chinese coast there to load and a simple ferry service across which would be the easiest option . US subs wouldnt touch them .
again , you have not actually read your own source , just picked something that seems at the title to disagree with me .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8233, topic:21032”]
Oh okay, so according to you Chinese subs could instantly take out a U.S carrier group undetected
[/quote] when did i say such a thing ? i assume you are referring to this ?
china would have the destroyers their for the sole purpose of spotting subs , at no point did i say they could not be sunk . but sinking them would alert the chinky’s of the subs presence before it reached the main landing craft ferrying troops .
of course this by no means mean the US could not take out the chinese transport ships , it just makes it that much harder .
again use your common sense .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Saying I’m wrong. So then i responded informing you that our stuff was made to take out Russian stuff.
[/quote] vise versa does not mean wrong .
at no point there did i say you was wrong , i added a sub point to your point .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Their new and improved ballistic missile the DF-21 was just unveiled at their parade a few months ago.
[/quote] yes they have more than one , the DF-21 is not the newest at all the newest is the DF-26 which has a longer range of 3500 km which was also at the parade .
how quickly the US can come up with counter measures for these will be the question , i would suspect pretty quickly , which is why china keeps alot of there kit pretty quite .
at current both these missiles are a worry to the US navy , will they be next year or the year after ? likely less of a threat
but these are only their big "toys " the Chinese and russians both have many land based anti-ship missiles designed to take out smaller ships but if they managed to hit a carrier would cause damage , but a US carrier wouldnt risk getting inside that range from the Chinese coast for these reasons .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Yes they are how ever we dislike each other, and there are many people in Washington who would love a war with China. It would make the arms manufacturers billions.
[/quote] but it would also cost you billions in other areas . it wont happen . war with russia is more likely .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Your post was implying the special forces is all that is needed to take out Taiwan.
[/quote] my post was not implying this at all , that may have been your perception of my post because you didnt read it correctly .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
You didn’t i did.
[/quote] that was a typo i meant when did i say it wouldnt require a larger force .
which of course it would hence my talk of china blocking the strait at either end protecting the ships carrying troops .
but of course you seem to lack the ability to link multiple points together to get the entire picture of what im actually saying .
something you need to work on .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
i was replying to your earlier statement that China could invade any of our allies in the area and we wouldn’t get involved.
[/quote] ermm that is not the statement i made . read what i wrote again please .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
The guy who is in charge of the defense of China said that. Their generals say equally stupid things, because they aren’t even real generals with any experience. They are communist party members
[/quote] politicians are politicians they are say stupid shit , dont mix politics with military tactics .
taiwan also has no military commanders with any real experience . and as if the US did decide to intervene it wouldnt be until the later stages of the invasion and likely too late . if carried out correctly
