Or this , when he questioned why I didn’t like all his comments that I had seen .
I must of wasted an hour of my life just liking his posts 
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vise versa .
the east has always been behind in terms of tech . because they have always just looked to counter the wests new weapons . as i say this is certainly on the turn .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8220, topic:21032”]
Yeah no, ive been reading about the carrier killer missile for over five years now. China recently unveiled it at a parade, it was also recently tested for the first time.
[/quote] what carrier missile are you talking about ? if you have been researching it for 5 years im sure you know it inside out . give me the name of the missile and i will double check . because they have more than one .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8220, topic:21032”]
You said we wouldn’t do shit if China invaded our allies in the region and i pointed out we actually have troops stationed in many of those countries.
[/quote] in the case of taiwan . i dont believe you would .
in the case of them laying claim to the disputed islands with force , i dont believe you would either .
if they invaded korea or japan . i believe you would ,
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8220, topic:21032”]
How is 2007 out of date? Most of our designs are 30 years old maybe even older.
[/quote] both our nations constantly upgrade our ships , forever in and out of dry docks .
other lesser nations dont do this . they do upgrades much further apart because they dont have the budget the top 5 nations have .
so a 20 year old US ship is far more advanced than a 20 year Japanese ship .
possibly by small boat . possibly by air , possibly through civilian means before the conflict begun .
the US isnt the only nation capable of flying undetected into another countries airspace and deploying troops .
the most likely way they would do it is by HAHO jumping from inside china and gliding into taiwan over a number of nights .
the special forces / pathfinders . would then identify targets from the ground and guide in the initial strikes and going loud themselves . this combined will create utter chaos inside taiwan as the military rushes to mobilize . forcing mistakes . the chinks would then exploit each mistake .
this is why war is more than just comparing statistics . how individual commanders and soldiers react when shit hits the fan . this is why you would want the UK over any other nation and why we would want you over any other nation .
we understand how we operate and when we make a joint operational plan , we do so in the trust that we will hold our areas of operation and get the job done .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8220, topic:21032”]
Yes but we didn’t actually have a troops stationed there along with military bases.
[/quote] no , but we both signed this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8220, topic:21032”]
It wont keep us at peace forever. A big war will happen between super powers its only a matter of time.
[/quote] the next big war will be Israel and Iran
this is how we got shit done
also may i add subs wouldnt be smart in the situation of taiwan . the straight of taiwan which separates the two nations is 180km wide , 350 km long and has a average depth of only 60 metres .
this would make it extremely hard for a submarine to stay hidden for any length of time .
so as i said before , how many subs are you willing to lose ? .
i would doubt the US navy would deploy subs directly into the straight , which is where the chinese would cross in knowledge of how difficult it would be to get a sub into the strait undetected .
they would also i suspect position destroyers at either end of the strait . to counter if any sub did attempt to enter , these ships i would suspect would also be supported from the near by coast line by truck mounted anti-ship missiles .
the chinks would be able to set up a very well defended parameter around their forces .
if china planned their operation correctly and carried it out correctly , they would wipe the floor with taiwan pretty quickly , way before your politicians had finished arguing about how to respond .
if china did it in a rush and executed it badly , taiwan would be in a much stronger position to bide time for any international help they will be hoping for
No, the Abrams, our jets, all of that were made to fight Russian equipment. Chinese equipment is very similar.
First off i never said ive been researching it. Ive just been hearing about it, and reading a bit about in articles for the last five years.
We originally thought they had hundreds, but it turns out it was a concept. But that has changed since very recently.
We would provide air power for the Japanese islands, and that’s really all. They wouldn’t be fought over using ground troops.
Taiwan is one of our biggest trade partners and the number one buyer of our military equipment, we don’t want to lose that.
It’s not 20 years old its 8. And they’ve upgrading them as we speak. Watch some documentaries on Japans militarization, it’s not hardly a new thing.
China has zero experience doing any of this. They haven’t fought a war since the 80s when they invaded Vietnam and got completely fucked by Vietnam’s military.
Their generals are put in their positions not based on their military career but because they’re liked by the Communist party. Chinese minister of defense answer to the new U.S destroyer was wooden fishing boats putting bombs on it. He also said the U.S would never take Baghdad, that Qaddafi would never be captured.
And you’re mad if you think special forces can completely take all of Taiwan. They have been preparing for a Chinese invasion since the creation of their country, and the only way China will take them is if they land a large force, which would never happen.
Signing an agreement is different then physically having troops there. If one of those countries were invaded our troops would fight, they would have no choice really.
Maybe, although a China U.S war is expected especially in China. Their leaders say and think war with the U.S is inevitable for China to expand.
where in that did i say it was not ?
again i ask you what missile you are talking about . they have a number of Anti-ship missiles. all of them capable of sinking a carrier if it hit it .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
Taiwan is one of our biggest trade partners and the number one buyer of our military equipment, we don’t want to lose that.
[/quote] china is also a very large trading partner . i dont believe you would do much other than some rousing speeches and if you did you would do it to late . there is no way your government would get military action against china through the senate in time .
you know this as well as i do . your government would hesitate and the chance would be gone .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
t’s not 20 years old its 8. And they’ve upgrading them as we speak. Watch some documentaries on Japans militarization, it’s not hardly a new thing.
[/quote] yes indeed they are upgrading it as well speak . with the ageis radar as ive been trying to tell you for the last 2 days but you have it in your head they’re constructing 8 new ships . which they are not . they are building 2 and upgrading 6 .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
And you’re mad if you think special forces can completely take all of Taiwan
[/quote] are you dense ? when did i say this . can you please actually read what i write .
the special forces would guide in the air power and ground to ground attacks . then they would carry out sabotage operations .
special forces are not designed to invade an entire country . they are designed to carry out small strategic missions and that is what they would do .
they always lead an invasion . before any major advance happens special forces and pathfinding units are deployed to gather intelligence and to soften up certain areas ready for the main force to come in and take a sledge hammer to the confused enemy forces .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
China has zero experience doing any of this. They haven’t fought a war since the 80s when they invaded Vietnam and got completely fucked by Vietnam’s military.
[/quote] this is a standard special forces manover , one i was personally trained in and one every special operative is trained to do its not complicated in the slightest .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
And you’re mad if you think special forces can completely take all of Taiwan. They have been preparing for a Chinese invasion since the creation of their country, and the only way China will take them is if they land a large force, which would never happen.
[/quote] when did i say it would require a large force ?
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
Signing an agreement is different then physically having troops there. If one of those countries were invaded our troops would fight, they would have no choice really.
[/quote] when did i say they wouldnt fight ? i even said that if they attacked korea or japan you would fight . you dont have troops on either taiwan or any of these disputed islands for the reason placing troops in any of these would create a major diplomatic fuck storm with china you would rather not have
you do not have troops in taiwan , you dont even have a fucking embassy there .
the chinese army of the 80’s compared to now is unrecognisable .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8229, topic:21032”]
Chinese minister of defense answer to the new U.S destroyer was wooden fishing boats putting bombs on it. He also said the U.S would never take Baghdad, that Qaddafi would never be captured.
[/quote] none of that is even slightly relevant to military tactics .
I said our tech was made to take out Russian tech you respond with.
Saying I’m wrong. So then i responded informing you that our stuff was made to take out Russian stuff.
Are you just being lazy, or ignoring the links I’m posting? China has several ballistic missiles, the earlier models were meant for carrying a nuclear payload and were piss poor accurate when a conventional load was attached.
Their new and improved ballistic missile the DF-21 was just unveiled at their parade a few months ago.
Yes they are how ever we dislike each other, and there are many people in Washington who would love a war with China. It would make the arms manufacturers billions.
Your post was implying the special forces is all that is needed to take out Taiwan. You need to get it through your head that if it was this easy for China to take out Taiwan they would have done it years ago. China considers them a rouge state, and a threat to their power.
The only way China could take Taiwan is landing a large number of troops which won’t happen.
You didn’t i did.
You said
After i said we didn’t have troops in Ukraine, and that’s why we didn’t fight. I never said we had troops in Taiwan, i was replying to your earlier statement that China could invade any of our allies in the area and we wouldn’t get involved.
You are painfully misinformed on your soon to be ally.
Take your pick of the sources, there are dozens.
The Chinese army is still in poor shape ( see MULTIPLE sources i have above). And that is not relevant, i was simply saying their only military experience in the last 40 years was getting the fuck kicked out of them.
The guy who is in charge of the defense of China said that. Their generals say equally stupid things, because they aren’t even real generals with any experience. They are communist party members.
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=352166
Formal admiral Cecil Haney disagrees with you. But lemme guess you know more about Naval warfare than him?
Oh okay, so according to you Chinese subs could instantly take out a U.S carrier group undetected, but U.S subs couldn’t even take out Chinese destroyers or transport ships. You’re so biased it’s really not worth arguing with you.
at no point does he disagree with my point . he is talking about sinking Chinese ships outside of the Taiwan straight .
if china moved ships into the straight before war actually started and troops on the Chinese coast there to load and a simple ferry service across which would be the easiest option . US subs wouldnt touch them .
again , you have not actually read your own source , just picked something that seems at the title to disagree with me .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8233, topic:21032”]
Oh okay, so according to you Chinese subs could instantly take out a U.S carrier group undetected
[/quote] when did i say such a thing ? i assume you are referring to this ?
china would have the destroyers their for the sole purpose of spotting subs , at no point did i say they could not be sunk . but sinking them would alert the chinky’s of the subs presence before it reached the main landing craft ferrying troops .
of course this by no means mean the US could not take out the chinese transport ships , it just makes it that much harder .
again use your common sense .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Saying I’m wrong. So then i responded informing you that our stuff was made to take out Russian stuff.
[/quote] vise versa does not mean wrong .
at no point there did i say you was wrong , i added a sub point to your point .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Their new and improved ballistic missile the DF-21 was just unveiled at their parade a few months ago.
[/quote] yes they have more than one , the DF-21 is not the newest at all the newest is the DF-26 which has a longer range of 3500 km which was also at the parade .
how quickly the US can come up with counter measures for these will be the question , i would suspect pretty quickly , which is why china keeps alot of there kit pretty quite .
at current both these missiles are a worry to the US navy , will they be next year or the year after ? likely less of a threat
but these are only their big "toys " the Chinese and russians both have many land based anti-ship missiles designed to take out smaller ships but if they managed to hit a carrier would cause damage , but a US carrier wouldnt risk getting inside that range from the Chinese coast for these reasons .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Yes they are how ever we dislike each other, and there are many people in Washington who would love a war with China. It would make the arms manufacturers billions.
[/quote] but it would also cost you billions in other areas . it wont happen . war with russia is more likely .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
Your post was implying the special forces is all that is needed to take out Taiwan.
[/quote] my post was not implying this at all , that may have been your perception of my post because you didnt read it correctly .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
You didn’t i did.
[/quote] that was a typo i meant when did i say it wouldnt require a larger force .
which of course it would hence my talk of china blocking the strait at either end protecting the ships carrying troops .
but of course you seem to lack the ability to link multiple points together to get the entire picture of what im actually saying .
something you need to work on .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
i was replying to your earlier statement that China could invade any of our allies in the area and we wouldn’t get involved.
[/quote] ermm that is not the statement i made . read what i wrote again please .
[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8232, topic:21032”]
The guy who is in charge of the defense of China said that. Their generals say equally stupid things, because they aren’t even real generals with any experience. They are communist party members
[/quote] politicians are politicians they are say stupid shit , dont mix politics with military tactics .
taiwan also has no military commanders with any real experience . and as if the US did decide to intervene it wouldnt be until the later stages of the invasion and likely too late . if carried out correctly
how china prepared for the conflict would ultimately decide the conflict in all of this
our future carrier fleets seem to be coming along nicely , could do with a few more of them however
but with this
this
this (most advanced AA ship on the planet )
and this
and possibly one of our nuclear armed subs
(both subs will be the most advanced in the world in their respected classes )
although the first sub has not been ordered yet , the politicians are still yet to decide if it gets the go ahead but it should do
when an american attempts a British fry up
That looks like one hell of a breakfast to me. But my breakfast usually consists of a cold bagel washed down with coffee.
A big breakfast to me is some bacon eggs and toast. The only time i get a huge ass breakfast like in that article is on Easter, or if i go to a diner for breakfast.
Give me some time to reply to the rest of your comments, i was busy all day, and last night.
Looks burnt to me 
it’s a shit attempt at a british fry up but I’d still eat it
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So a guy decided to translate his gaming experience into real life and did MAFIA style bank robbery in Prague.
I wonder who and to what end will be inspired by KCD.
Video from arrest in the link.
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Maybe this guy?
Also it’s time we had a serious discussion about banning swords.