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#8285

in terms of my training as a military sniper ? no.

i would shoot a further warning shot closer to them , and generally a tracer as to make it near impossible for them to not notice it , then aim to injure , greatly depends on the range in which we are discussing .

if at any point they raise the weapon in a manor i deem threatening i can shoot to kill , but if the weapon is being carried in a way which is not threatening . e.g by their side , over their should or whatever i cant just shoot to kill without giving them a decent chance to turn the fuck around .

#8286

but the cezch law is pretty similar to the one in the UK

There is no explicit stand-your-ground or castle doctrine provision in the laws of the Czech Republic, however there is also no duty to retreat from an attack[36] and that has an effect similar to “stand your ground” provision. In order for a defense to be judged as legitimate, it may not be manifestly disproportionate to the manner of the attack

i reckon you would have an issue proving that as propitiate

#8287

We’re talking about you as a civilian though. You own a bunch of land out in the middle of no where. You see several heavily armed men approaching your home. You fire several warning shots and they don’t turn around and maybe even start to fire at you. Surely you can see how a sniper would be useful in that situation right?

#8288

Sounds similar to the U.S one too. Stand your ground laws are usually protecting people who have to shoot an intruder, or in self defense. Many Europeans seem shocked by its existence and think it gives you the right to shoot everyone on sight.

#8289

in that situation , they would have a very fucking bad day . so yes i can see it as useful but personally for self defence i wouldnt be buying a sniper rifle , and i doubt a politician lives out in the country . as i say i think its to mask his love of hunting

#8290

Well if you lived on a huge chunk of land wouldn’t you want a sniper? And honestly if it was near the U.S Mexico border i would definitely want some serious fire power.

It’s pretty common here for politicians to have houses on large properties.

#8291

many people in the UK are unaware of the law here .

they simply dont realise if someone enters your home youu can use WHATEVER force you feel required to remove the threat to your property and yourself/family including killing the intruder .

if someone broke into my house with a knife and i ambushed him in a room and put my own knife through his neck . im perfectly protected by the law .

people here think you have to run away .

if someone runs out your back door with your tv and you chase him down and stab him to death clearly that is not reasonable

#8292

Well what about in public though? The stand your ground law protects people who are getting stabbed or beaten up, and they shoot their attacker.

#8293

yes same in public , whatever fore you feel reasonable to remove the threat . but of course we are disadvantaged in the fact if you’re caught with any type of weapon on you in public you’re looking at a hefty criminal case against you .

but if you picked up an object in self defence and smashed some mans head in when it tried attacking you with a weapon then , that is perfectly legal

#8294

no they would likely call a drill in the area which they do quite often . testing anti ship missiles and marine landings etc . (although they never specify what they are actually doing ) this would give them cover to move a fleet within striking distance . once everything is set up they would then start strikes .

not missiles then move the fleet .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8275, topic:21032”]
To invade Taiwan they would have to leave international waters. Part of the straight belongs to Taiwan if we noticed large a large number of Chinese vessels approaching after Taiwan was bombarded with missiles we could strike.
[/quote] but i would guess the other part belongs to china . so as long as the ships stay in their territory until they’re ready apart from the big shit storm it would create , you would have no position to strike without approval

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8275, topic:21032”]
Again i don’t think any country is going to use nukes unless they are on the brink of being defeated in an invasion of their country. Our nuclear capabilities are years ahead of China and they wouldn’t risk being turned into glass.
[/quote] agreed but that is far far from the point . the threat of nuclear was would be a path not many would want to go down .

the US wouldnt want to be nuking china anymore than china would want the US nuking china .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8275, topic:21032”]
Possible, although I’m sure Taiwan would have backup means of detecting Chinese activity in the region.
[/quote] yes of course the human eye .

but if china damaged the communication lines the generals ability to effectively deploy his troops is damaged . and deploying them wrong could be complete military disaster is days . deploying them well ? could mean holding china off for longer than expected .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8275, topic:21032”]
Well, the DMZ is extremely heavily fortified, and the South would be defending with close to 600,000 well trained well equipped men. I don’t really see how China could take it seeing how it’s being manned by technology better than their own. Not to mention the average Chinese soldiers training mainly consists of propaganda and singing patriotic songs.

And apply your rule of time to China here. They don’t just have 3 million men waiting around in North Korea waiting for an invasion. A large build up like that near the DMZ would be detected fast and the area would be more heavily reinforced. The Chinese troops would also face heavy air strikes, they would be hit with off shore naval support ect.
[/quote] yes agreed , china does have many troops on the border with NK and NK has a million men on the DMZ as well .

so china’s abilty to deploy them is quite good based on the fact they can do it by road .

we also know , there plenty of tunnels under the DMZ .

personally i would issue a tactical withdraw to be better position and muster all my forces along with US forces and take the full smack at once then counter attack .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:8275, topic:21032”]
South Korea actually has an extremely powerful military for how small the country is. They have a larger air force, navy, and army than even the U.K does.
[/quote] indeed they do but again it depends how they deploy . i think the US would direct them to full back to a better position , depending on the situation

this was hitlers biggest mistake he would refuse to do this when in reality sometimes its best to lose a little ground to hold on to the rest then retake later

#8295

You alright ? :smile: Give me a sec to reply to that comment on China vs U.S i just got home.

#8296

:slight_smile: i would be the intruder wouldnt :wink: to be fair my girlfriend would likely fly kick the bloke for wearing shoes in the house .

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#8297

Well, 600 is hard to imagine, but if someone is shooting at you from, say 80, using a vz.58, accurate round from a sniper rifle seems to be the proper response. Illegal Vz.58 (and vz.61 even more so) is a gun typically used for a bank robbery or money transport thefts here, so imagining use during a heist on someone’s house is not that impossible (especially in case of Albanians and this sort of people who can’t simply accept a failure and turn back when facing victim that turns out to be armed).

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#8298

Looks like a good day at school. I can’t wait until foreign media get their hands on these pictures, I guess it will be some kind of a read! :smile:



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#8299

That would create an an enourmous shit storm if that happened in the U.S.
I’d say Czechs seem far more comfortable around guns then Americans are now a days.

#8300

I bet the girl with RPG is aiming at the teacher :smiley:

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#8301

Interesting.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1445951141536.jpg

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#8302

Yes but if they were doing a drill us and our allies in the region would be on high alert, ready for an attack that could come.

Yes but war with another nuclear power is inevitable. It might not be a war we want but it will happen eventually. As i said before China has stated war with the U.S will happen unless we leave the region which won’t happen.

But i don’t think either side would consider nukes, its far to drastic and quite frankly suicidal.

Or U.S surveillance or other countries radar.

Well i wouldn’t consider those of much use during an invasion. They’re probably 60+ years old and could be collapsed with explosives.

Well good thing Hitler isn’t running South Korea then. :wink:

Also remember South Korea and the U.S are constantly drilling for this kind of attack. North Korea and China are not, i suspect that if North Korea started down the war path with the South, China would just take out their puppet, and replace him with a more stable person.

They wouldn’t want to lose their buffer zone between them and a U.S ally. It would really turn into South Korea against China, which i think they could hold off in todays age, especially with U.S support, and possibly even NATO support. It’s also highly unlikely China could gain naval and air dominance over the South and the U.S, they would really only out number the South in man power alone. They do have more tanks but i doubt they would send all of them.

If it was the South alone China could eventually overrun them with sheer numbers, but i don’t think China would do that considering how much they would lose. Not to mention they could be crippled by sanctions from the U.S. We’re their number 1 buyer and cut that off and China would hurt badly.

The south would also receive support from the neighboring countries like India, Japan, Vietnam. All countries that have a bone to pick with China

#8303

not interesting in the slightest , i noticed they decided to only do up to 2005 . which is very selective . it fell drastically after 2005 .

this was something that was expected for it to rise firstly then fall as the weapons were taken off the street over a number of years . and gun crime is still falling , on and off some years it does go up slightly then falls again

as ive said before however i dont agree with the pointless ban on pistols

#8304

and between 2001 and 2008 according to

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom

only 18 people were killed with a handgun .

now compare that with the cezch republic …in the same period 104 homicides by handgun .

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/czech-republic

also in the uk between 2005-2011 we had 35 justified homicides involving firearms

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