inside the stadium perfectly acceptable , but a rave ? everyone consuming alcohol or a bar where they also shot up , no gun owner with a brain would consume drink while carrying , as you have stated you rightfully dont do .
i would suspect you would avoid these events all together .
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
Well given that ANYONE has the right to get a gun and carry, it is their own choice to either not get the license, or to leave the gun at home. In my mind, those unarmed people decided for themselves. I am primary responsible for safety of my loved ones and I am sure it would be easier to get them out of harm’s way with gun blazing than with empty hands.
[/quote] in the situation of the theatre , a gun would of been useless . you simply wouldnt be in a position to be at all effective with it . mixed in with the panic , would be confusion , exactly where are the shooters ? remembering it was a dark room .
they picked the target well .
the restaurant and bar , if armed and quick enough its reasonable to say you would be able to put some rounds into the car , but would you hit them , or kill them ? i doubt it , by the sounds of it , they pulled up , let rip and sped off .
but out of the targets they are the best option for any sort of fight back .
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
I don’t know why you always mix guns and alcohol. I drink much less since I started to carry, basically only in the evening at home, no alcohol outside unless I make the decision that it is a drinking time and leave gun at home.
Any alcohol level while carrying or DRIVING CAR here leads to loss of firearm license, so gun owners are the least likely to have DUI or drink with gun. That is why most bars in Prague have non-alcoholic beer ON TAP.
[/quote] 90% people when they go out to watch the football at a bar they consume alcohol . irrelevant of the gun laws of the nation , im saying the chances of anyone actually being armed in these instances would be next to zero .
im not talking on a general prospective here , im talking about these specific attack locations and times of the paris attacks .
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
Yes well, it is first move then shoot. There ain’t much you can do in situation you described, however the difference comes once those fuckers get out of car to finish the people off. That’s when they need to decide whether they move on to fulfill the target of having the largest number of victims possible, or whether they take the risk dealing with you. Which may go any given way if you get behind a solid obstacle.
[/quote] i dont believe they went into the bar but if they did i would agree with you , the odds would be massively against you but its possible for sure , but by the sounds of it , it was a drive by .
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
Well that was the case with Charlie Hebdo. But we could see at the train attack that the guy clearly had all of his firearms experience from watching action movies. So the chances that you will be more proficient with your gun than the attacker with his are not that low.
[/quote] again im talking about the specific attacks of Friday . the one on the train , seems a loan wolf attack , have a go jihadi .
the events on friday were planed in great detail and carried out by people who knew what they were doing,
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
Depending on which gun and where I go. Kahr with 6+1 and 2x6 spares is mostly summer gun, for cycling, for going to park, etc.
CZ with 14+1 and spare 16 or 2x16 (when I have backpack) is otherwise main carry gun.
[/quote] so no , you’re not equipped for any sort of sustained fire-fight .
as i said , you have equipped yourself to deal with your everyday attacker , knife , handgun . that sort of thing .
not 5 heavily armed men with automatic weapons .
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
That surely not but if they are going my way, I prefer to give them hell and get shot in forehead than getting shot at my back
[/quote] absolutely . in the theatre though you aint got a chance . 300+ people going for a single fire exit , climbing over people , complete chaos , while 5 men let rip into the crowd with 7.62 . unless you’re lucky enough to be coming out of the toilet at the time . you’re screwed .
in this case , its a matter of getting out or barricading yourself in a room and defending the room with your firearm
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
Truth to be told not, but if I were a Jew living in Paris (and if it was possible for the Jew in Paris), then surely yes. This really isn’t that much hassle. I am sure a couple of Jews in Prague do have it, despite the last time anything happened to Jew here was 1945, and we got rid of all Germans since then.
[/quote] out with your girlfriend , all dressed up in a shirt , for date night . ? i doubt you would be carrying this 
come on now
[quote=“snejdarek, post:8833, topic:21032”]
It’s all about time. Every ten seconds they spend dealing with you puts at least 60 meters between the attacker and possible victims. If you manage to to survive for a minute and half that may very well mean that your family is already half-a-kilometer away. Absolutely worth it. Especially considering the alternative.
[/quote] in an open situation , yes but the situation of the theatre , where the entire crowd of people in in the middle of a dance floor with one exit ? you would last about 10 seconds before you were obliterated , thats if you can even get a shot at one of the gunmen .
