#9913

Right, terrorist, insurgent ect. So pretty much a terror attack, or insurgency is enough to put loads of civilians in re education camps. And from the documents i showed you earlier pretty much anyone who is right wing, is a terrorist in the eyes of the DHS.

#9914

you clearly dont understand what you’re reading .

in the event of a large scale disturbance in which US citizens are the subject to attack by enemy combatants that blend into the population or a large scale break down of society . it is necessary to contain that disturbance to one section of the country .

in doing so it requires you to contain a large portion of society and subject every member of that contained society to suspicion .

in doing so you maintain the stability of the rest of the country .

for example if texas suddenly went rouge . the US government would lock texas down and let no one out in order to stop it from spreading chaos to the rest of the US .

the same as in the event of a terror attack on a city . that city is locked down and no can leave or enter until the situation becomes stable again thus avoiding the attack from spreading .

#9915

the refugee crisis is a great example .

you do not simply open your doors to all of them people without first checking every single one to avoid the chaos from spreading .

i dont understand your shock . it happens everyday across the globe . if a particular region in embattled in war you lock that region down to stop the war from spreading . no one leaves or enters without being extensively checked .

if china invaded florida . you would stop free movement from florida to the rest of the US would you not ? in essence that is what that document outlines

#9916

Lol no it does not, the document is entitled, internment, and resettlement, and it has absolutely nothing to do with locking down trouble areas, you are completely talking out of your ass.

It discusses mainly POWs, but it gets into civilians, and how to detain them during times of trouble, how to treat them, re education ect. The document applies to the U.S, just as it does to the rest of the world.

#9917

Yes refugee detainment camps . Like what Australia did to the boat migrants

Which funny enough when it comes to brown people from Syria you fully support .

#9918

Nope, they are not referred to as refugee camps they are referred to internment camps, which are generally associated with political prisoners, like the Japs in WW2.

What the fuck are you on about? I don’t support taking refugees from Syria, and i certainly don’t support putting anyone in camps. Also great job at trying to change the subject, you sound like a left wing nut you always love to throw out the “you hate brown people” card.

#9919

do you support what Australia did to the boat migrants ?

simple question which i already know the answer because me and you had this argument with @snejdarek and you along side me supported Australia .

#9920

I have no memory of this debate, furthermore, putting refugees in refugee camps is not even close to the same thing as putting political dissidents and your own citizens into camps. The refugees have no home, not even comparable to forcing your own people in re education camps.

#9921

which means containment yes .

when a population is exposed to large scale unrest and conflict it has a moral effect . take the refugee’s from syria attacking the women in cologne for example .

so before you release them into society its necessary to re-educate these people and security check them before resettling them into society .

#9922

This document has nothing to do with refugees, so stop pretending this has anything to do with them. This document is talking about U.S citizens, not some people from a far away land with different ideas.Read the fucking title, INTERNMENT, it’s clear as day you cannot miss it.

When it refers to re education it is talking once again about U.S citizens.

#9923

you clearly didnt even read your own source in detail and seem to have just looked for key words to support a stupid theory you have

this document has EVERYTHING to do with refugee’s

are you saying a US citizen cannon be a refugee ?

if texas erupted into large scale domestic conflict forcing people from their homes they become refugee’s. who could not simply be allowed to run across the US in a desperate plea for survival .

in requires them to be CONTAINED , processed into friend and foe and then RESETTLED

which means fucking contained

the document repeatedly uses the term DISLOCATED CIVILIANS which means for the slow kid at the back refugees

DISLOCATED CIVILIAN POLICIES
1-33. DCs who have moved in response to a natural or man-made disaster have the following in common:
z They are unable or unwilling to stay in their homes.
z Their physical presence can affect military operations.
z They require some degree of aid, to include many of the basic human necessities.
1-34. DCs are to be provided humane care and treatment consistent with the Geneva Conventions and
international laws, regardless of the categorization given to them by higher authority.
1-35. Some DCs may be refugees covered by the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and
Article 73, Geneva Protocol I (wherein stateless persons or refugees are protected persons within the
meaning of Part I and Part III, GC). The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees provides a general
and universally applicable definition of the term refugee and establishes minimum standards for the
treatment and protection of refugees, specifying the obligations of the HN and the refugees to one another.
Among the important provisions of this convention is the principle of nonrefoulement (Article 33), which
prohibits the return or expulsion of a refugee to the territory of a state where his life, freedom, or personal
security would be in jeopardy. I/R personnel conducting DC operations that involve refugees will not
repatriate refugees until directed by applicable governmental organizations through the chain of command.
1-36. Refugees have the right to safe asylum and basic civil, economic, and social rights. For example,
adult refugees should have the right to work and refugee children should be able to attend school. In certain
circumstances (such as large-scale inflows of refugees), asylum states may feel obliged to restrict certain
rights. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees assists to fill gaps when no resources are available from
the government of the country of asylum or other agencies. (See the UN High Commissioner for Refugees
Handbook for the Military on Humanitarian Operations.) When possible, units conducting I/R operations
involving refugees should establish provisions for the protection of these rights that are consistent with
military necessity and available resources.
ABUSE OR MISTREATMENT
1-37. All DOD personnel (military, civilian, and contractor) must correct, report, and document any
incident or situation that might constitute the mistreatment or abuse of detainees, U.S. military prisoners, or
DCs. Acts and omissions that constitute inhumane treatment may be violations of U.S. laws, U.S. policies,
and the law of war. These violations require immediate action to correct. If a violation is ongoing, Soldiers
have an obligation to take action to stop the violation and report it to their chain of command.
1-38. All personnel who observe or have knowledge of possible abuse or mistreatment will immediately
report the incident through their chain of command or supervision. Reports may also be submitted to the
military police, a judge advocate, a chaplain, or an inspector general, who will then forward the report
through the recipient’s chain of command or supervision. Reports made to other officials will be accepted
and immediately forwarded through the recipient’s chain of command or supervision, and an information
copy will be provided to the appropriate combatant commander.

all the document is doing is detailing how the different parts of society would be dealt with in the case of conflict on US soil . which happens to include displaced US citizens , militia members , enemy combats that become POW’s.

i find it puzzling that you’re surprised that during a conflict people would be contained and resettled and not allowed to simply roam wherever they liked

#9924

again read your own fucking source

RELEASE OR TRANSITION
2-27. Generally, the military does not lead the planning and execution of detainee release type programs,
but may establish and operate TIF reconciliation centers to ensure the continuity of detainee programs
established in detention centers and reintegration efforts that conclude at the points of release back into
society. The individual or large-scale release or reintegration of detainees back into the civilian community
is a significant event that occurs during stability operations and can have a powerful effect in reducing the
issues that created the counterinsurgency conditions. Reintegration efforts must be widely understood and
visible. This is generally achieved by a deliberate information and public affairs effort. Former combatants
may participate in the process when offered some level of due process involvement linked to corrective
behavior modification. Commanders must seek legal assistance as they balance regulatory operations
security and detainee privacy entitlements with the transparency necessary for supporting democratic
institutions and national values. Military police may provide the security, custody, and control of detainees
at TIF reconciliation centers and may actively conduct rehabilitative and reconciliatory programs in a
command or support relationship with the headquarters responsible for an AO containing a TIF
reconciliation center. (See chapter 9 for more information on detainee release or transition.)

RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS
2-29. Resettlement operations may occur across the spectrum of operations. (See chapter 10.) Events under
the category of resettlement operations include relief; chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and
high-yield explosives (CBRNE); civil laws; and community assistance operations. Military police provide
support to resettlement operations, which includes establishing and operating facilities and supporting CA
efforts to ensure that supply routes remain open and clear to the maneuver commander. Additional tasks
include enforcing curfews, restricting movement, checking travel permits and registration cards, operating
checkpoints, instituting amnesty programs, and conducting inspections. The level of control is drastically
different from that used during detainee operations. During resettlement operations, DCs are allowed the
freedom of movement as long as such movement does not impede operations.
2-30. DC is a special category associated with resettlement operations. CA personnel perform the basic
collective tasks during DC operations. DC operations minimize civilian interference with military
operations, protect civilians from combat operations, and are normally performed with minimal military
resources. Nonmilitary international aid organizations, and other NGOs are the primary resources used to
assist CA forces. However, CA forces may depend on other military units, such as military police I/R units,
to assist with a particular category of DCs.
2-31. Controlling DCs is essential during military operations because uncontrolled masses of people can
seriously impair the military mission. Commanders plan measures to protect DCs in the AO and to prevent
their interference with the mission. Military police commanders and staffs must have a clear understanding
of the OE, ROE, and legal considerations before setting up a resettlement facility

at no fucking point does the document even hint at large scale imprisonment of US citizens .

#9925

@snejdarek

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#9926

Which really works well considering that in all recent terrorist attacks, people who spent years in European criminals participated.

Meanwhile in Germany:

Another day, another cover-up comes to light. “FURY was
growing in Germany tonight over mounting evidence of a cover-up of
migrant sex crimes after it emerged a welcome party for refugees held
two months before the Cologne rapes descended into a mass groping
session.”

I very much recommend this article:

@Skoruligr

Damn Bohemians! They ruined the HRE!

Well, that is quite a true statement really, considering that Bohemia is where the reformation really got going, and that it was the first previously Catholic country that got non-Catholic king. Not to mention it happened at the time when it was both economical as well as political center of the Empire.

Natural enemies

Czechs never really tried to invade and conquer surrounding countries. More about keeping to themselves. Which is kind of hard when you get invaded all the time.

#9927

Have any of you considered ceasing to be so dang invadable? I know that sometimes when I talk to a Czech, I kinda want to go conquer Czech lands. Not wanting to invade Bohemia is like not wanting to punch out the Clintons, you guys are kinda asking for it.

#9928

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#9929

Well we worked hard 40 years during communism to become a dirt poor country so that nobody wants to come, but then it all went wrong and our GDP started going up again. But it is still far cry from being world top ten we used to until 1938, so hopefully we are covered for a few more years to come.

Also, I am not sure about invadibility of the other Czechs, but there is a loaded CZ 75 on my desk just left of the keyboard, so I consider my tiny part of the Czech Republic covered.

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#9930

Oh, I dunno, your country sure does produce a lot of salt.

Czech-made CZ 75
Not glorious and superior German-made HK USP .45

2/10 would invade for funsies.

P.S. nice try, I saw you add the condoms and booze, the original pic only had the CZ 75

#9931

Not according to IPSC shooters.

Besides, I am not particularly fond of polymer.

#9932

which is the perfect example why re-adjustment is needed on a mental level . written in the form it is in the document it seems quite cold but it has a very valid reason . to avoid such instances .

although the file is speaking about people that are detained and not a mass "re-education " of the entire population like @SirWarriant seems to perceive it as saying .

although he will likely come back saying it does and highlight words in bold but because he has not actually read the document in any great detail other than someone else likely linking it too him in some bullshit tin foil rant . Which gave him a pre-perceived opinion on the document to which he found a few words that when you put together and put a completely different context behind them support the silly rant . .

but hey thats what happens when you watch certain people in the media who make money off fear mongering and screaming at people . I mean because imprisoning your entire population and turning them all into slaves is quite a plausible situation.