My friends, I have sinned. I bought ESO.
Im sure you could find many more
I would give you a month tops to hold us in a war thoughts? Don’t let your pride cloud this one. Be realistic. You’ve told me many times you would have no hope if Russia decided to invade you. Also you wouldn’t be able to fight back against us if we occupied you
Says a man from a country that gave the world term “Glasgow smile”.
depends , our greatest defence is the fact that we are an island to support your force you would HAVE to cross the alantic , the UK has the most advanced submarine force on the plannet . before you say anything US submarine officers go to the royal navy for much of their training in commanding a sub .
a month ? we would hold longer . ultimately you could take us but it would cost you ALOT of men . you then have to deal with the fact that most of the world would side with us over you .
if you got a foot hold quickly yes we would be fucked depending on how fast you could reinforce such a foothold .
thats from back in the good old days of organised crime …when guns were more available and Glasgow is like the british version of Detroit
How exactly is firearm useful in cutting someone’s face is beyond me, but if you say so.
Just out of curiosity - when was concealed carry last legal in England/Wales?
I looked this up and all the sources said Russian subs were the best and most advanced. The only thing i found about you training our sub commanders was a joint sub training that was taught be sub commanders from several different nations including the U.S and U.K.
Yeah i’m more inclined to believe our mutual allies would just send us a letter of disapproval. Russia wouldn’t help you and China wouldn’t either. Although they might take the opportunity to take countries in eastern Europe or the Pacific.
Also you have 10 submarines and we have 72.
not the actual sub . but the standards of training to which is expected is extremely high in the UK . the US only trains its subs to operate in deep water they come here to learn shallow water attacks which would be used around the UK in the event of an invasion
Well then that would mean our commanders would know how to counter your shallow water sub tactics. And correct me if i’m wrong but aren’t subs in shallow water also in vulnerable to cruise missiles and planes?
situation dependent .
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Also you have 10 submarines and we have 72.
[/quote] 14 actually http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organisation/the-fighting-arms/submarine-service#submarine-rescue-system
you also seem to get cought up in plain numbers again which are irrelevant . are you going to deploy all 72 ? no of course not .
the most likely event would be
Single US task force maybe two at a push role up (yes you could deploy more but you wouldnt )
the moment you lost an aircraft carrier you would basically stop the war and sort the issue someother way .
as the war would already be too expensive
before you go on the rant about a sub not getting close to a us carrier …
i know what your response is going to be already . tell me how large the us army is and how many aircraft carriers you have . dont bother stupid argument and the classic arm chair general one
thats where the art of the good commander comes in
Thats not much better.
No no we wouldn’t We’ve lost aircraft carriers before and haven’t surrendered not sure where you’re getting this from.
Yeah that was a while ago. That was pretty lazy of how ever i doubt that would happen during war time.
Im always amazed that you discredit numbers. I guess the country with the smallest military should be the most effective according do your logic.
Does the art of a good commander block a missle?
We also have a large enough navy just to blockade you and starve you out.
i assume you’re talking about WW2 times are very different im afraid . by losing your aircraft carrier you lose the ENTIRE bite of the task force leaving the entire fleet and troops exposed to air power and subs and you would of lose 90 planes (if carriers at full cap)
4,500 men and billions of dollars in one stroke . its likely the sub would also attempt to down as many of the other ships as possible . before diving deeper and slipping away .
we also have nukes so you wouldnt attack in the first place
Sorry you will never convince me that losing one carrier will make us flee and surrender. With your logic we only need 1 carrier anyway because if we lose one we’re just going to panic and lose anyway.
Ill just turn your logic on you. We destroy one of your subs and bam you lose and surrender.
in a nut shell yes . they’re to show might more than anything if you lost one shit would hit the fan .
by losing the carrier you lose the entire air cover . a task force cannot and will not continue without air cover thats basic .
Well good thing we have 11 of them. And remember they are heavily guarded so i doubt taking one down would be easy.
no thats not the logic what so ever you’re falling to see sense here . your ENTIRE air cabilites exists only when you have a carrier . no carrier no us planes . no planes no invasion .
are you seeing what im saying by taking out the carrier you take out the entire air attack with it