Troll cave II

Right. :wink:

Would you like your safe space to have teddy bears, or unicorns?

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I dont know what I would do without you. You always explain to me what I actually wanted to say and who I actually am,

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He’s rich, he likes gold stuff and lacks taste what more do you need to know ?

So how did you like it?

Wall is a fence now.
“Monster” and “devil” Hillary is a “good people” now.
“Draining the swamp” means putting up a team full of seasoned lobbyists now.

And that’s only the week one.

Saudis at least give you a day in court before they decapitate you for apostasy.

Also, Saudis are counterweight to Iran, and if not neutralized, largest danger to Israel, the 51st state.

there was no way it was ever going to be a solid fucking wall across the entirety of the border . the US needs to fix its border and he will do it .

well in a way he has not changed his tune here . he is clearing out Washington by simply removing the middle man 
the politician and just having the lobbyist run it directly :smile:

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decisions decisions decisions .

do i sell my F type (reckon i could still get about ÂŁ65,000 for it ) then put down a large deposit on a brand new Lamborghini hurricane with a Personal contract plan (PCP) finance deal for the rest (couldnt afford one outright , not yet anyway ) .

ive always been dead against the idea of finance deals but i could afford the monthly payments and a chance to own my dream car hmmmmmmmm 
on the other hand i think my missus would kill me.

more to the point have any of you ever dabbled in such finance deals if so are they worth it

You should work at CNN (Clinton news network) you do a great job at picking only parts of what people say. He said it may look more like a fence in certain areas, and in the areas where a wall is needed, there will be one.

He’s acting gracious and humble after wining, something that people claim he should do more often.

Which one of them are lobbyists? The names ive heard are all people who i think most of his supporters would approve of, Giuliani, Goudy, Carson, Gingrich, Bannon. He said he wants to pick supreme court justices in the mold of Scalia, which means very very pro 2nd amendment.
Also he owes them nothing. He got to the White house on his own money, unlike most politicians who appoint people like that because they owe them a favour.

You have to have some experienced people in there, the Carter administration tried all outsider approach and look how that ended up.

You forgot to mention after his meeting with Obama, the TPP was cancelled, things with Russia have cooled down for the moment, and your head of defence apparently said European nations might actually start paying the 2% now.

Yes i believe the Soviet Union had courts, as well as Nazi Germany.

The idea that Iran could take Israel ( and the U.S) in a conventional ground war is laughable. It would be like the Gulf war 2.0 with thousand of old Soviet tanks left smouldering in the desert. If the Obama admin was really anti Iran and really viewed them as a threat, they wouldn’t have given 400 billion dollars in cash or made a one sided deal that has gotten them closer to a nuke.

Helping the Saudis had nothing to do with helping Israel, and the fact that you’re excusing Obama willingly selling arms to a nation that funds ISIS shows your bias.

Not entirely true . Iran could take Israel if it was one on one .

The Iranian military is actually very well equipped and they use a lot of American kit such as the cobra helicopter . NATO would roll them over yes but it would be slightly harder than Iraq for the reason that the Iranians lived through the gulf war they learnt from it .

Israel on their own would struggle . NATO would take them but calsusilties would be a lot higher than Iraq . It’s not a war we want to get involved in unless we truly have too . Which is why they have been able to get such a good deal .

I put Iran in the bracket of the few nations that could actually throw a few punches back

I’m sorry but did Isreal pretty much take on a good chunk of the middle east, not once but twice and come out on top despite being completely suprised?

Most of their American equipment (like the f-14 and Cobra) is close to 40 years old and in complete shambles. Most of their f-14s are just rust buckets because their fancy equipment became useless when we stopped selling them spare parts and cut off their military aid.

Iran couldn’t even defeat Iraq despite having superior equipment, so i don’t see how they would stand against a much more technologically advanced Isreal especially since Isreal has the U.S backing it.

40 years ago i would agree with you, but now i doubt think Irans conventional force could defeat Isreal. If it was a 1v1, it would be a very tough fight, but i think Isreal would come out on top in that one.

Of course i have no desire to go to war with Iran. My point was Obama isn’t selling weapons to the Saudis for Isreals sake.

I just don’t buy it that he was so worried about Isreals safety that he would willingly fund any nation that he knows funds ISIS, I’m more inclined to believe he sold them weapons so they would donate to Hillarys campaign (they were 20% of her campaign fund).

Egypt , Syria and Jordon yes not Iran . Iran is the only real threat to Israel out there .

Well first of all, if Israelis managed it, why couldn’t US.

Secondly, that is what he promised.

The only money I owed was for my education in Germany, and that was family issue. Otherwise, I have never borrowed any money.

I will probably take a mortgage on a flat next year, maybe cover a car purchase with it, but otherwise I’d like to stick to debt free life.

Because the Israeli border is totally close to the size of the U.S Mexico border.

He’s not going back on any promises, he said it may look more like a fence in some areas, and it will be a full blown wall where it’s appropriate. The Geography of the U.S Mexico border is quite rugged, and there would be no sense in putting a wall in an area where it would be almost impossible to cross anyway.

Hell there may even be spots where putting a wall is impossible, due to natural barriers that also keep illegals, and drug smugglers from crossing there.

A threat yes, but i still don’t think they could win a conventional war against them for reasons stated above. It would still be extremely costly for both sides. I don’t think it’s going to happen either, Iran knows that the U.S is looking for an excuse to do a little regime change in their country.

Do these people realize that their lord and savior Obama is still living in the White house for the next few months, and that all they’re doing is making sure he dosn’t get any sleep?