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BREAKING: Mexican President announces work will start on a great tunnel and America will pay for it

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Well the referendum didn’t put forward any particulars of leaving EU.

While I agree that leaving the EU is the only legitimate way forward now, I wouldn’t go as far as saying that it gives the government a blanque cheque to do “the leaving” on whatever terms they like. Moreover given that it is unelected government.

They don’t a vote will be held on the deal at the end .
Vast majority here wish to leave the EU single market it’s what was made clear during the campaigning that a vote to leave was a vote to leave the single market now the butt hurt remainers are trying to twist this their way .

As for unelected ? We vote for a party not a prime minster . The conservative party won the election and was asked to form a government they are fully elected . There is no desire for an election and she would wipe the floor with labour if there was . Pointless stupid comment .

The reason why Czechs don’t care about foreigners so far while Brits do is quite simple.

  1. Our foreigners are barely foreigners. 3/4 of them are either Slovaks (basicaly Czechs with weird accent), Ukrainians and other europeans (Germans, Poles, Russians
) There is almost no cultural clash and they are fully integrated in one generation, in case they are not just by moving in
 The rest are Vietnamese who are even less conflicting immigrants and only tiny number of MENA immigrants.

  2. We have basicaly zero second generation immigrants who indentify themselves culturaly different to Czechs. When you say UK has 8% of foreigners, it disregards the huge number of second generation immigrants with british passport who still keep cultural diferences from british people, which makes them british only on paper. If you count those people, you will get way higher number than 8% in perception of your average Brit. Then compare it to Czechia, were you actually have to lower the number 5%, because no one in their right mind consider Slovaks foreigners, and it is quite clear why there is such a big difference in perception of foreigners.

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“He said when he left school in the 1960s you were guaranteed a stable
job. For 37 years he had worked in a rubber factory which exported
goods all over the world until it shut down.After the decline of
the manufacturing and mining industries in Barnsley and elsewhere, young
people simply weren’t given that same promise of a stable job they
could be proud of.”

This is interesting, this string of thinking here is associated mostly/exclusively with communist party members and voters. Are labor just communist in sheep clothes?

They are right now .

But not the north was always very working class . If you lived in a fishing village you became a fisherman , lived in a coal mining village you became a coal miner etc Many of the villages were constructed by the mine owners so when these entire industries were shut down mostly due to being undercut by china etc these places lost their entire culture and identity.

So the desire and fondness of globalisation and in turn high amounts of cheap labour from abroad have some what dissolved .
But yes they were always very strong unions up north which in many ways with their greed contributed to many mines being closed under thatcher as they simply were not making profit and I mean zero profit .

While Czech Republic may have larger percentage of European immigration, UK has larger percentage of EU immigration.

As it happens non-EU immigration, i.e. the one that is most likely to pose “cultural clash” you write about, will not be in any way hindered by leaving EU.

Again, these are mostly non-EU immigrants.

You would be surprised.

That’s just technicality, it doesn’t really matter for hosting country whether someone is a Pole or Russian (I hope there is no Pole reading it, lol). Either way;

  1. It’s harder for EE migrant to integrate in UK than in Czechia.
  2. They are not forced to integrate in multicultural UK society as they are in homogenous czech society.
  3. A Brit will consider Pole “more foreign” than a Czech will, and it’s all about perception.

The rationality of leaving EU is another question, I was just saying why there is such a different attitude towards foreigners in UK and Czechia.

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Your point laid mostly in the issue of second generation immigrants persevering in their own cultural identity. Which is not an issue with EE immigrants.

Well it is . Most EE immigrants here come here to work and go back home . 10 or so living in a small flat with next to no rent to pay for a few years then go back home loaded .

Percentage wise I’d imagine about 20% actually come to settle and even then they stay within their community. The ones that do settle . They open polish shops etc and often all go to an area where more EE are settled further culturally alienating the traditional British living in the area . Leading to many being brought up with negative views of EE’s this carries on in the same fashion for the second generation

Are second generation Poles interested in running Polish shops in Polish quarters or do they have the same aspirations as Brits raised in Britain? Do Polish-English teenagers share e same values as native English or do they differ?

The issue @Freix raised was second generation immigrants to UK maintaining their cultural identity alien to other British ways of life making the difference between the Czech and British perception of immigration. Be it Ukrainians, Vietnamese or Greeks (who were sizable minority in my hometown) here, the only difference with the second generation is the food they eat and the way they arrange family parties. The only people here that keep their lifestyle which is seen as troubling by the natives are gypsies.

Last time they tried to force us to do something it didn’t go to well for them. :sunglasses:

I raised several points, with cultural issues of second generation immigrants being just one of them. Although I do believe it is the most important one, especially because they are not counted in the number of foreginers you mentioned. Nowhere did I say it’s EE immigrants who cause the second generation issues though. In fact, it’s pretty much impossible, considering that EE mass immigration started after EE joined EU, which means there is no second generation of EE immigrants


Man these people are really arrogant after 8 years of getting to burn down cities, and do what they want without consequences.

I hope she enjoys a visit from the secret service.

What does MAGA stand for? Google just throws krav maga lessons in the Czech Republic for me


Make American great again.

Why the fuck are statements like this controversial?

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How racist

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UK is lately outdoing even Sweden. :joy:

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