Troll cave II

German army pulled back after two of their offensives on Moscow failed and they were facing imminent danger of being encircled and cut off. They didn’t fail for lack of trying, but due to facing superior force at this part of the front.

You mean the way they collapsed when Napoleon took Moscow?

By this time entire factories with all of its machines, tools and workers were moved further East. Moscow ceased being of strategic importance.

Moreover the mass murdering of civilians in areas occupied by German Army had become public knowledge thus making it clear that this is a war for very survival.

Then instead of facing rear insurgency they would face real prospect of full encirclement by professional Russian armies. Russia is too vast of a landmass to allow “single front approach”. Moreover, Germany desperately needed Russian resources and factories to be able to keep its war machine rolling. If they went straight for Moscow and neglected the rest not only would they not secure those resources, but they would continue to produce against them.

It is not about being “more open to Hitler”. Both Ukraine and Belorussia lost millions civilians due to Stalin’s famine and collectivization politics. Stalin was facing a very real prospect of anti-Soviet uprising in these areas and he was extremely afraid that all that needs to happen for him to lose them is just Poland providing weapons. (And Poland was seriously considering it for a time, given that they felt secure in the West due to 1934 pact with Germany as well as after having invaded Czechoslovakia together with Germany and Hungary).

All that Germany needed to do was to give those guys uniforms and guns, and then they could have millions more people going for Moscow, most of them with determination that only those who seek revenge may have.

Instead they just started raping and murdering them by the millions.

Not only reload, MG 42 was extremely overheating, so the operator had several spare barrels and had to switch them quite often during shooting.

This is why I said that BREN/ZB 26 was a different weapon. A soldier was expected to run and gun with BREN (having both semi-auto as well as full auto mode), while MG 42 needed to be mainly stationary due to combination of extreme ammo consumption and extreme overheating.

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Thats true…

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Man, it has been a really long time since I’ve visited the Cave, I wonder what they are up to?

Oh, still arguing about tanks and the Bren vs MG42

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Not really, I moved towards buying BREN.

after all, BREN is the sole reason that Brits won the war

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brown was really in fashion in the 30 in germany, you know… :spy:

I understand that you Germans have a different opinion of mass Muslim immigration and its impact on society, however sending the families of victims of terror attacks invoices for body handling seems as a step too far.

Relatives said the first official communication they had with authorities was a bill sent to them by the coroner’s office. The letter reportedly included a warning that if the bill was not paid within a certain timeframe, the recipients would face legal action.

Well fuck me, all those from batch that cost €800 are sold out, now they are offering me one for €1.600.

I hate the fucking EU Gun Ban. The prices are getting crazy.

Yes, sounds totally german to me. It has nothing to do with muslim immigration in this case, because this would have happened in any case, but yes. Thats germany.

A few years ago a firefigther in a city close by died on duty. The first thing they asked her wife was to return his uniform parts to the authorities, or she will have to pay for it, because she is not the owner of it. Normal stuff in Germany.

Well someone may argue that had the people not been killed by a Jihadi Radical that has been under close watch of police & secret service for several months but who was in the end considered not to represent danger to society despite there being evidence of himself presenting self to a radical Imam as a prospective suicide bomber that then there would be no need for the said bills covering coroner’s work to be issued in the first place, but hey, what do I know.

Yes, but there is still no direct connection to this bill. Thats just how germans like to do their things.

This is kind of like the story about the girl form Denmark who was investigated for using pepper spray on her rapist.

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