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#4411

a happy population is a productive population . Any successful business or country for that matter relies on its people investing in there rights and benefits helps everyone in the end .

As for maternity leave . about two years ago now one of the girls that work under my missus in our business was on maternity leave for around 6 months we paid her full pay the entire time (dont legally have to pay her full pay after a set period ) she is an extremely hard working so i had no issue doing this .

after the six months she was having second thoughts about returning to work as the cost of child care in london is extremely expensive meaning she would really be working for very little and her husband has a decent job . now because i valued her i offered to pay her child care which i still pay every month costing me around 1200-1500 a month depending on hours i need her to work .

you could quite rightly say why on earth would i do that , that seems stupid . HOWEVER around six months ago one of the apartment blocks i own (my business is property management , property sales , i do some house flipping , renting out etc ) had a burst water main at about 1am which meant i had water pissing through 3 flats a ruining everything fucking thing . i had to call her up at just after 1am and ask her to get me an emergency plumber and start organising contractors for repairs , contact our insurance company and on top of that re house all the residents whos flats were damaged until i had them fixed .

she worked alongside me and my missus solid for about 18 hours arranging all this and pretty long hours the rest of the week . i paid her no extra in her months salary for this . she did not ask , she simply said okay and got to work , why ? because i value her and i scratch her back so she scratches mine . (gave her a good xmas bonus in thanks though )

she may well have saved me thousands through the efficiency and speed she organised things . i had everyone moved back in , in under 2 weeks .

im a firm believer that had it been an employee i treated like shit , i would have had to work harder myself and at a greater cost .

so Europe has this mentality nation wide , invest in the people and there rights and they are less likely to commit crime and treat services like shit in the long run saving the government money .By investing in good healthcare and a good schooling system you give the entire population no matter there class the opportunity to get a good education and a good life and most important to the government a high paying job meaning higher tax incomes as well as advancing the nations status . you cannot make money unless you are prepared to spend money

#4412

no i think what cost the germans the war was the combined efforts of the allied forces being superior to the combined efforts of the axis forces

#4413

Failure to utilize Ukrainian and Belorussian hatred of the Soviet regime for its own war effort was what led to German inability to win on the Eastern front.

Had Germans not lost the Eastern front the ā€œcombined efforts of the allied forcesā€ would have taken much different path.

Germany would need to be atom bombed in order to reach victory, and I mean atom bombed a lot, not like Japan.

At the same time if they won East and had stalemate West Germany might have made its own A-bomb leading to who knows what. They were mining Uranium pretty hard in the Czech lands for that very purpose.

#4414

god forbid they get a break !!!

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#4415

Afghanistan would have been a loss for the Soviets anyway, it is for anyone who invades that god forsaken nation. You donā€™t get the nickname ā€œgraveyard of empiresā€ for nothing. Not to mention the U.S supported the Mujaheddin even after the Soviets were goneā€¦

You can make this case for Eastern Europe, but Western Europe was not under communism and has had a very long time to recover and rebuild. Germany at this point seems hell bent on destroying its self, and France isnā€™t much better.

Why anyone thinks importing millions of young third world men from war torn nations, who belong to a religion that has been hell bent on subduing Europe for 1400 years, is a good idea is beyond me.

Also the U.S was outstripping Europe Economically long before ww2.

You sure about that? Soviets were most certainly behind in ICBM technology, and it seems troop quality was also much higher in the west.

Yeah, a lot of that is due to the destructive left wing polices of the well fare state, and encouraging mass illegal immigration. Has nothing to do with shit like maternity leave.

U.S is still a better environment for starting a small business than Europe.

Youā€™ll start to see massive rise in income inequality in a few years, when the stats involving the recently arrived start showing up. The U.S has been importing millions of people from violent third world shit holes for 30+ years, so Europe has some catching up to do.

Maybe if Germans were okay with their taxes sky rocketing higher than their already high taxes.

What does this have to do with that part of my post? And are you seriously trying to argue the migrant crisis wont affect Germany economically? Most of those migrants are illiterate in their own languageā€¦

In certain areas yeah. Inner cities are absolute madness, practically being war zones. But outside of those you see crime rates on part with Europe, like where i live, and this is still despite a massive amount of illegal immigration.

Do tell?

You realise majority of the regulations donā€™t have anything to do with the environment right?

Yeah we have doom and gloom people like you, who say oil drilling and mining will make the sky black with soot. But it never happens. Massive amount of oil drilling and mining goes on in my state, and we have really low pollution, in fact the only environmental disaster in recent history that was man made was done by those sons of bitches at the EPA :smiley:

Again, not to be insulting, but is personal responsibility even a concept where you come from? No i do not want taxes on unhealthy food or ciggerates. If people want to fuck up their bodies, i could care less, Iā€™m even pro drug legalisation, if you want to make those choices and you arenā€™t harming anyone but your self, itā€™s not my place or the governments to stop you. But donā€™t expect me to pay for your bad choices that could have been prevented.

I do however think harmful products should be clearly advertised, and labelled. But that already exists.

@TheDivineInfidel

All i have to say to your post is, paying that women maternity leave was your choice to make. I donā€™t believe the government should be forcing people to make that choice, not every employer can afford to do things like that. And you did it willingly without the govt forcing you, so you kinda proved my point.

That was my whole point all a long, [quote=ā€œTheDivineInfidel, post:4411, topic:27880ā€]
so Europe has this mentality nation wide
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Such a strong value that the government has to force people to uphold it. Thatā€™s a complete oxymoron, if you have to force people to uphold something, they do not value it, or have it as a belief. :. Btw you just referred to Europe has a country. :wink:

Henry Ford did more for the treatment of workers in the U.S than any union or piece of legislation ever could. He gave his workers the weekend off, and treated them respectfully, a stark contrast to other companies. People then began willingly emulating his methods.

Operation Barbarossa was doomed to failure from the start, regardless if the Germans treated the occupied nations well. Soviet armour strength was just too strong for the Germans to handle, they massively under estimated that strength.

#4416

Happy Easter losers.

Watch out for trucks while hunting for eggs.

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#4417

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Also nice to see that the media and left did fuck all to condemn the political violence their side was perpetrating, and now we have full on rumbles going on at free speech rallies.

#4418

The relative armor strength played much smaller role than the poor preparation (German army made little to no preparations as regards winter fighting) and too long supply lines which were moreover continually disrupted by the Ukrainian and Belorussian partisans.

Had Germans utilized the Ukrainian and Belorussia hatred of the Soviets they would get:

  1. safe supply lines
  2. full production capacity of these areas for its own cause leading to massive improvements as regards food, oil and mechanization (Germany only focused on oil production in these areas, neglected the rest)
  3. important propaganda boost - one of the reasons why Soviets were so effective in the war cause was that they were literally fighting for own survival, if German propaganda could show nice life in Ukraine and Belorussia, the prospect of dying for Stalin would be much less sexy for the Russians too.

Yeah, project Barbarossa was doomed from the start, but not due to the very fact of it happening but due to the underlying planning and execution.

#4419

It amazes me that US citizens accept the police failure to protect demonstrations all the time. This happens very sporadically here too, but in US it seems that demonstrations turning to streetfights is a commonplace.

#4420

I honestly canā€™t remeber a single case of a demonstration where opposing sides were allowed to fight fist to fist against each other. What happens sporadically is shouting matches and ocassional thrown object, but thatā€™s pretty much it.

#4421

Queer fests in Brno were often limited due to nazĆ­ intrusions. Not to the level of large scale fights, the police cordon always held on, but the planned processions were typically cut off with fights sometimes erupting in the side streets.

My friend always says that queer parades are not what they used to be since they moved them from Brno to Prague.

#4422

not entirely im legally obliged to pay her for 39 weeks 90% of her usual pay for the first 6 weeks then this drops to about Ā£150 a week for the remaining weeks . If i was to lay her off because she was pregnant she could have sued me .

although i will openly admit that if you was to give me a choice between two candidates for a job . both basically identical in credentials and both say 25 i would likely hire the male on the basis there is more chance of him working for me for the long term and not leaving to raise a family . Legally speaking however thats discriminating and id be open to be sued for doing so

i meant all the nations within europe have this mentality nation wide :wink: . we are simply more liberal when it comes to workers rights . likely because our countries are older and wiser than your country :wink: hundreds of years of basically no working rights have gave us a feeling of pride in what we now have .

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#4426

What the fuck? Genital mutiliation is only 5 years felony in US? @SirWarriant

#4427

but steal a bag of sweets and your going down for 50 years solid hard time :smile:

#4428

Police were given a stand down order as soon as Antifa started throwing m80s and bricks at the pro Trump side.

There needs to be a federal investigation at this point, this is the third time police equipped with riot gear at Berkeley have stood down.

This recent political violence is new though. Itā€™s being encouraged because " trump is Hitler and all his supporters are Nazis". Honestly itā€™s only a matter of time before somebody dies. One guy got smashed in the face with an incoming brick and was on serious condition.

To make the situation even more fucked, the police banned the carrying of shields or mace for the pro trump demonstraters, while Antifa of course ignored that and maced many people.

#4429

Donā€™t understand what is so hard about controlling two protest group . Here they are always separated by a large amount of police . Of course some people still get away with throwing stuff but at which point the police will generally try to widen the gap .

US police seem incompetent at doing anything other than using lethal force ā€¦

#4430

Agree to attend the protostant church my father goes to for Easter morning. 20 minutes in the minister says Catholics will burn in hell. :sunglasses:

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