id put money on there being more . we dont get reports of everyone that happens here . only very bad ones so likely the same for you but yes im sure they are less
all the comments on the video as well hahaha labour are fucked
Yes she must win a 2/3 majority in parliament for it to go ahead but to vote down an election would be political suicide considering itâs what they have dug her out on since day one
Well the one that got 23 years got full media attention when it happened, when the innitial arrest was made, and each and everytime a court decided on it (1st instance, 2nd instance, Supreme Court, Consitutional Court).
This is so rare and extreme here that having one flying unreported would be extremely unlikely.
Just saw some videos from the Berkley thing.
The way the cops just laid back is beyond my comprehension.
Also, with the bricks flying, I would only like to add that our Supreme Court clearly adjudicated that a bullet in the head is legitimate defense against bricks being thrown.
how much were you betting again ?
not that it makes it any better of course. I think you are blinded to much by your dislike of muslims . hating muslims wont deal with terrorism . the only way to defeat terrorism is by working with a strong muslim society getting them to flog and hand over anyone supporting Wahabism and Salafism and then for the governments to deal with them in the proper manner .
ISAF was most successful in the districts in which the people supported and worked with us . they drew the taliban into the open and we took them down . that same tactic needs to be used all over the world .
You were making it seem like it was a common thing for teens to do, and you had a âboys will be boysâ attitude about it. School shootings are not seen as harmless pranks over here, like acid attacks are for you.
Sure sure, if you consider 5 major terror attacks in the past 2 years to be rare eventsâŠ[quote=âTheDivineInfidel, post:4465, topic:27880â]
yes a number are honour crimes (basically muslims ).
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Considering they are most common in nations with a large Islamic population, i will place bets on the majority being commited by Muslims.
According to the source above that would be 1500 since 2011, far higher than the number you just gave.
No i didnât. Since we are talking about current events on going in the U.S and Europe, i used the last year, shocking i know.
I didnât use any thing narrow, i used mass killings in general, which are more deadly in France the past few years than America. You cannot use the time frames before this, because Europe was not facing these kinds of attacks ten years ago.
How is it any more difficult than other polls?
Anecdote vs statistics
Ive met plenty of blacks in my life who are great people and wouldnât hurt anyone, but that does not change the fact that for being 13% of the population they commit over 60% of the murders. You are a middle class white man, who probably lives in a mostly white area correct? So the Muslims you are mingling with are likely middle class as well, and probably a minority in that area. Try going to Birmingham, and denounce Mohamed in the streets, see how fast youâll get your ass mobbed.
I never claimed itâs just them committing the crime. But it is certainly a disproportionate amount, to the native population (aside from blacks). Some of the largest gangs in the United States are illegals, and our practically open border with Mexico allows the free movement of human trafficking, drug running, and weaponry.
Itâs caused big issues for the black community too. Most blacks are actually against illegal immigration despite mostly vote left, because they get undercut in their jobs because of it, and it increases gang activity in their community.
The media doesnât bother to report on the black vs latin American gang wars that happen in places like LA. Just recently the leader of a prominent Mexican gang, said his goal was to ethnically cleanse blacks in his area.
Itâs impossible to avoid a rise in crime, when you import millions of people from nations full of violence and poverty. Many people fled here from Panama, Nicaragua, San Salvador, Mexico, ect. All are war torn countries with the former three actually experiencing civil wars, although Mexico is not much better.
Not to mention when Castro first got into power, one of the first things he did was take all the violent criminals from his prison, and give them freedom, the only condition was they had to go to the U.S, and we let them in because they were ârefugeesâ.
I too watched a lot of footage, mainly live streaming from prominent conservatives that were present. The cops left, as soon as bricks and m80s started flying, absolutely disgraceful, IMO the police chief and mayor should be in prison if it comes out there was a stand down order given (which there most certainly was).
Although there was another pro trump rally yesterday, in which the cops were nabbing all masked Antifas there to disrupt, and telling them to take off their mask or be arrested. Shocker, there was no violence (that i know of) at that rally.
Yeah, i can see why. Several people on the Trump side got smashed up really good by the bricks, and were bleeding profusely, luckily most people had the sense to wear helmets, but cops banned the use of shields for what ever reasonâŠ[quote=âTheDivineInfidel, post:4476, topic:27880â]
how much were you betting again ?
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Are you trolling? You give me one example of a jealous boyfriend doing it, and you try and present it as evidence that theyâre the most common perpetrators? Not to mention that involved a TV star which is why it has a headline.
Show me stats saying its âmuh white malesâ doing it, and ill eat my words.
Speaking facts about Islam= hating Muslims. Mkay.
I have a dislike for Islam for simply studying History. They are the most violent expansionist religion on the planet, period.
The word âIslamâ means surrender and submission. The west has been at war with Islam since itâs inception, people seem to forget the extent of their invasions into Europe. Less than a 100 years before the creation of the U.S, Ottoman armies were at the gates of Vienna, the heart of Europe. Spain was occupied for 700 years by the moors, Sicily for years, Turkey was once the Eastern Roman empire.
If Europeans donât understand that Islam as a whole craves world domination by the sword, they will seal their own doom. As stated above, if a European nation reaches 51% Muslim population, it will no longer be a free nation with western values, you need to look at Turkey and decide if thatâs who you want to be like.
Right, because itâs not like the Islamic community actively shields terrorists, and fugitives, and âforgetsâ to report that theyâre about to blow dozens of people away.
muslims âŠamericans âŠwouldnt trust either with a machine gun
Agreed, i wouldnât want to give a gun to the person who spanked by ass either. 
And for not trusting us with weapons, you euro poors are sure okay with us having bases in your nations. 
actually the issue is most Muslims are too scared to speak up . its only when you offer protection that they spill the beans . we learnt this in Afghanistan . most afghans hate the taliban but they live in fear . they say and do whats needed to survive .
the moment ISAF offered proper protection it was amazing how many of "ohh by the way they make bombs in the compound across that field " begins to take place .
i am right wing i dont hide it ive been accused of being racist most of my life . i used to think alot more like you . i no longer dislike islam as whole . i think its deep routed with issues and needs reforming much like Christianity did .
However ive had the opportunity through my previous career to see for myself what life is like in the middle east and the every day fear that these people live with everyday . fear you wont ever experience . the fear that even shaking a white mans hand could result in your mother or sister being raped or at best you being beaten to a pulp .
Ive had the great pleasure in helping to rid the middle east of a few of these fuckers . But nothing was sweeter to me than helping open schools , providing proper infrastructure and security to these villages and then watching the positive effect it has on the people that live there . Only then do you see the real desire to change the middle east and to change islam .
Hating islam wont change islam . we have to support and protect muslims and wait for them to change it themselves .
so more to your point , they dont shield terrorists they shield there family
using your own quote how did you work that out ? it actually shows your more likely to be injured in france and more likely to be killed in the US.
but it also shows that 2015 was a one off where the US is basically consistently bad so if you was studying them states you wouldnt even put france on the same page .
so you could quite easily conclude youâre both more likely to be involved in a mass shooting in the US and more likely to be killed in the US
No it does not.
There were more deaths in 2015 in France due to mass killings than in the U.S. And when you account for population differences that gives you a much much higher chance to die in France in a mass killing.
8.19 vs 1.65
No in recent terror attacks in Europe, and even in the U.S they actively shielded terrorists, and refused to report on their actions.
Be apologetic all you like, itâs disgusting unjustifiable behavior, and those who do that have blood on their hands. In the middle east that is a different story, but that is not a valid excuse in the west.
Huge difference, Christianity needed a reformation that led it back to its roots, IE getting rid of indulgences, allowing commoners to own a bible, ect.
Islam needs a reformation that gets RID of its roots. Which is a much harder thing to do. To achieve a peaceful Islam they would practically have to denounce the freaking founder of the religion, itâs insanely problematic.
I agree we should hold up reformers. But itâs insanity to let them pour into our nations, when they currently hold values that are an absolute contradiction to our western values, and our way of governing.
These people have been trying to destroy us for 1400 years, letting them all in and âhopingâ they will one day change is not a solution, itâs just signing your own death certificate. The way we can help most is by stabilizing the middle east, stop arming radical fundamentalist rebels, and taking out dictators who kept things stable for the most part.
Safe zones are also a good idea, and i like that weâre currently doing that.
that does not account for the fact . that france has suffered a small number of very large attacks in a single year making that year somewhat of an abnormal year. on an average year youâre far more at risk in the US end of . The US is consistent and at a higher frequency .
it very much is a valid excuse in the west in that the fear still exists in these very Muslim areas . the way of defeating terrorism is to work with Muslims not out casting them . Its not about being apologetic its about identifying an issue with Islam and coming up with a productive way to combat it .
i agree here
no they have not , they have mostly been destroying themselves long before we had anything to do with them .
yes i agree but at the same time you support an isolationist stand point which wont do that but instead allow terrorism to flourish in the middle east to a point where they will begin to strike you at home .
what we should be doing is investing in security in these countries and providing UN security in large numbers and the willingness to fight long and fight hard alongside building these countries up
Holy shit, thatâs what ive been saying this whole time. I said repeatedly the U.S has smaller trickles of violence if you will, then France has sudden sporadic surges of violence, and those instances have made it more likely for an average frenchman to be killed in an attack than an average American, despite them happening more regularly in America.
Itâs frequency vs intensity.
Two years now, youâre forgetting Charlie Hebo, and the Jewish supermarket. No one is arguing that America had a large mass killing problem prior to a few years ago, but that has changed now. These attacks are getting worse and worse, and far larger Iâm afraid.
This is what happens when you fling your doors wide open.
No i think itâs simply enthusiasm for the terrorists actions. Again look at the numbers of Muslims who support these actions, itâs staggering. And find me a time where a Muslim has be killed or attacked by fellow Muslims for reporting a terrorists actions before he can strike.
Yes they have, you just werenât taught that because Western schools in general are selective when teaching history. As soon as Islam was formed, it began rapidly spreading across the Middle east, and even into Asia (they have a long history of fighting Hindus in India).
Within 200 years they had conquered all of the Middle east (which was Christian at the time) by the sword. The Persian empire was brought down when they allowed a small number of Muslims into their country, the rest is history. They then conquered the Iberian peninsula (modern day Spain, and Portugal) and were actively conquering land belonging to the Byzantine Empire. They constantly raided European coastal town, they had the largest and most brutal slave trade in history, carrying off Europeans by the thousands.
They occupied Sicily for a number of years, and Spain wasnât free of Islamic rule until the 1500s, which is 700 years of Islamic occupation and fighting.
Are you aware of the Battle of tours in 732? An Islamic army had invaded France and was defeated by Charles Martell. Of course they donât teach that in school because it shows how long they have been invading Europe.
Then they invaded the Anatolian peninsula which belonged to the Byzantine Empire, in the 1100s, only then was the first crusade launched. They fought the Byzantines for 700 years, before finally conquering them, which is why its called Turkey, and why itâs Islamic not Christian. Muslims even sacked Rome at one point.
Hell they were still invading Europe almost up until the fucking American revolution (Battle of Vienna, they reached the fucking heart of Europe).
The middle east only ceased to be a conventional threat to us 100 years ago when the Ottoman Empire was disbanded. So yes, they have been actively trying to conquer and destroy us for 1400 fucking years this is undeniable.
Most terrorism in the middle east can be traced back to our meddling. Iran was becoming a secular western nation, before we helped you tea baggers over throw their democratically elected leader. We armed the Mujahideen which had Al Qaeda and the Taliban to offshoot. We overthrew Saddam, Gaddafi and maybe Assad in the future.
Had we stuck to our isolationist stand point, itâs like none of this would have happened. Things are different now, i do believe itâs our mess to clean up, so i fully support stabilizing those nations we destroyed, and i fully support getting rid of ISIS. The middle east is so fucked up that the only thing keeping it together somewhat was the iron fist dictators.
When we removed them it was like throwing a match on a puddle of gasoline.
5 only if you discount all those that were less successful. Otherwise you arrive at 25 at least.
@thedivineinfidel please be so kind and donât call me on that number, I have no fucking time to do the digging 
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Iâll reply later Iâm currently at the royal opera house in London
https://twitter.com/Forever_Lucid/status/853957193514835970
Used this.
The attacker is also a collage professor 
This profesor is damn good
I can almost hear the progress going through my skull!
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