In Germany nobody dies in an ambulance, you either die sooner on the streets or later in the hospital, but never in the ambulance. An ambulance is not a funeral car and it has to be clean, because they don´t want patients with wounds get infections. They have to clean up after every emergancy of corse, but if someone dies in an ambulance, they have to stop, call a funeral car, and then make a special general cleaning of the car, because corpses are in a different category than wounded people.
They will revive you in a German ambulance till you are in the hospital, because nobody wants to clean the ambulance for hours.
“Put your hands on the car and prepare to die”
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Same here on all points mentioned.
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This is such a sad day. Next he’ll be saying schizophrenics and bi polar people can’t serve.
Physical and mental condition should not be the benchmark for military service in 2017.
Well, there are several issues connected to this.
First of all, AG opinion is only advisory. I do believe that the CJEU will follow it, but we are not there yet.
Second of all, the only way of “forcing” anything may be for the CJEU to decide that the country has to follow its ruling or pay a fine which consists of daily sum for as long as the country does not comply. Which leads to another point as regards national politics that I will make later, but now…
There are two differing legal cases at hand here. One is the case of Slovakia and Hungary against the EU for making majority ruling decision on immigration quotas - this is the one that will be probably decided in next half-a-year, i.e. almost 3 years after having been lodged.
The second is European Commission case against the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland for refusing to accept migrants under the quota system. This is now in pre-CJEU stage now. Should the Commission decide to proceed with infringement action, we could probably get decision by 2019 or 2020. At that time either the whole relocation scheme will be obsolete or we will be having a completely different discussion about what the EU should and should not be.
Back to the national politics: given that the only stick that EU has is connected to money, this may allow us to have an honest discussion about the EU money. Central and Eastern EU countries got addicted to the EU funds as same as did for example French farmers.
More importantly the Eurocrats somehow think that this is an issue that may be up to debate. Maybe I am underestimating importance of EU funds addiction in Poland, but at least here in the Czech Republic this is very much question of survival for politicians. They can and they will accept fines rather than accept the quotas.
Last but not least each of the three countries that are about to be sued are in a bit different position.
Poland refused to accept any based on a principal. With politicians being openly Islamophobic. Their case is the weakest.
Hungary refused the scheme out of principal - if they accepted it, they would actually be country of origin, i.e. many of the immigrants that are now in Hungary would be relocated elsewhere (back in 2015 Hungary was hit by large scale illegal immigration same as Greece and Italy now). They still have disproportionately high number of immigrants. Even if the court decides that the legal side of the relocation scheme was OK, Hungary still will have strong case against its practical outcome.
Czech Republic had its own unique approach to the issue. While countries like Germany simply accepted a trainload of surprise from Italy/Greece (LITERALLY), the Czech Republic insisted on vetting of people to be sent here.
First Greece and Italy refused any cooperation.
Then after seeing that we won’t accept “trainload of surprise” like the other countries, the vetting could be started.
Of hundreds of applicants, Czech Republic accepted 12. The rest were not rejected, but in all cases simply didn’t wait for the outcome of the vetting process and left their camps where they were supposed to wait in Greece/Italy (the process was up to 3 months long).
At that point with the autumn election time approaching, the Czech Government said that continuing the vetting process is simply a waste of resources and publicly refused to continue to participate in the relocation scheme.
I.e. once the national elections are out of the way, depending on what Government we elect, we may end up either facing the fine or getting back to the vetting process with 12 people accepted in 2 years - or maybe more if Greece and Italy put their act together.
Truth to be told I would not think that the few thousand we are supposed to accept would be an issue - as long as they are vetted. But I do agree with sticking to the principle and sticking it to the EU.
My personal preference would be national scheme for evacuation of the most vulnerable people from the area of conflict and surrounding refugee camps in Turkey and Jordan - to take first and foremost Jews, Gays, Atheists and Christians, as these are facing the gravest danger no matter if at ISIS territory or in “safe” zone.
On our end it should be made by municipalities offering slots to the government for people they decide they are willing to accept.
We could take 20K such people a year without breaking a sweat.
But then again, when we started such program in small scale for Iraqi Christians, of the 80 that were flown here on Government plane, provided asylum, housing and Czech language and culture classes, 40 then fled on to Germany and 15 decided they want back to Iraq.
The 30 remaining now mostly have jobs and from what I’ve seen on TV seem to be becoming valuable members of society, but this is too low success rate to try that on large scale.
This shows that in the end even if the Czech Republic will accept the migrants under the quota scheme, most of them will move on to Germany or Sweden anyway.
One more thing:
The relocation scheme does not mean that we have to accept these people as our countrymen or give them asylum, but rather that we need to take them on for the purposes of processing the asylum applications in line with national law.
Given that the Italian and Greek authorities preselect the people for the surprise trains, the chances that they will be suitable for asylum are quite high.
However, there are different levels of protection. Most typical are asylum, whereby the person may remain in the country indefinitely (without obtaining citizenship - but they may ask for that later) and “international protection”, whereby the person is allowed to stay (and work and gain education etc.) for as long as there is danger in his home country (and at the same time there is no safe enough zone in the home country - which is the reason why most Ukrainians don’t fill the criteria and are given work permits instead).
Countries like Germany mostly hand out asylums.
Countries like the Czech Republic mostly hand out international protection. And once the war is over, the person either needs to get long term residency (i.e. needs to prove his worth to stay here as any other 3rd country national) or will be given plane tickets and order to leave within 7 days (failure to do so is felony crime and may lead to jail time, but more commonly forced deportation).
We give asylum mostly only to people who are targeted personally, for example members of Cuban dissent or someone who would be personally on ISIS death list (Yazidi leader), not just as a member of a group (a random Yazidi).
When ever i hear Islamophobic, i just hear “they have their head screwed on straight”.
Aren’t you concerned about cultural changes? 20k a year may not seem like a lot, but Muslims typically have double the kids native Europeans have. Given that your country seems to value it’s atheistic values, i would guess most of your countrymen wouldn’t want Islamic immigration at all, but i could be wrong.
Even small numbers can be dangerous, Japan took in 14 refugees last year, and a number of them within months were arrested for rape, and murder.
You’re probable right, and it seems you have a sensible system in place. Unlike America, or Germany when entering illegally is actively encouraged and rewarded with benefits meant for tax payers.
And if the Migrants you do take in get too rowdy, you people are at least armed unlike most of your fellow Euros. In a couple of decades you will be one of the few recognisable European countries unfortunately.
You missed the part where I said I would accept national scheme aimed at Jews, gays, atheists and Christians. That is what the 20K was referring to.
Source please.
I don’t know about any murder, but there was highly publicized brutal gang rape by two turkish asylum seekers.
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Hey, @TheDivineInfidel, are those skilled doctors and engineers from Pakistan and Bangladesh already pouring in?
That would probably be the case i was thinking of. There are also cases here in the U.S, involving rape, and murder, when we’ve taken in a tiny percentage relative to our population.
It’s better to resettle these people in the middle east, in places like Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. They’re closer, have similar cultures, the same religion and similar languages, so it would be easier on the refuges as well. Not to mention it’s much cheaper.
I’m not even going to talk about the migrants from Africa, and other non war torn middle eastern nations, as they should not be let in at all, since they’re just economic migrants.
Most doctors here are Indian . Engineers I couldn’t say
Lol
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Could you point me to statistics on that? My quick google search failed me.
What I found was this but I have no idea what I am looking at
Just four days ago, we were caught off guard by a snow/hail storm in Dolomites (Italian Alps). Temperature around zero, terrible wind, thunders and all.
Now we are in Slovakia and there should be 40°C degrees in the shade… but we will be running and gunning around shooting range. No clouds either… well if I never come back to you guys, it was a heat stroke that got me.