I would argue every atheist is agnostic .
I believe in science backed up with evidence . If we was able to prove god exsisted or at least back up claims with evidence I would be open to believing .
However none of that is in place therefore god is no more real than Santa or the tooth fairy so I disbelieve in today’s current world with today’s current knowledge .
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I never used the word, good or bad. You really need to work on reading comprehension, since you’ve had trouble comprehending just about every one of the last 20 odd posts ive made.
I am not giving them anything. I never asked to collectively judged by my race, they (the left) started this game.
Identity politics is mostly a thing of the left in the United States. They have been saying “white males” are the enemy for the past 20 years, and openly admit to trying to demographically replace us, since whites are really the only racial group that vote on mass for smaller government.
I get that you’re German, and we injected you all with the experimental suicide gene after world war 2. But there is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your culture, and wanting your race to remain the majority in the nation your ancestors created.
It’s a perfectly normal, and healthy human sentiment, (we are tribal creatures after all). If whites become the minority in the west, it simply wont be the “west” anymore. Our culture will be replaced, and our children and grandchildren will be hated minorities int he nations their ancestors died by the millions to maintain and create.
Refusing to look out for your group, while everyone else is, is sorta like 6 people being tossed into an area. Four of those people group into pairs of two. But the remaining two people refuse to work together, and who do you think will win that fight?
You may not see it as an us vs them situation, but they do ( all other races). There are black congressional caucuses, Hispanic Caucuses, Hispanic groups, black groups. But if whites do they they’re called racists and supremacists.
Yep, gotta keep that confirmation bias going. We can both play psychologist though, I’m guessing you’re an atheist because like most of your kind you’re angry at god for something.
Actually they have. Dawkins, and Hitchens are or were some of the biggest names in atheism, and anti theism.
I suggested the universe was, but i never claimed i had proof of this.
No, because it’s unfortunately impossible to view what was before the universe, since the universe encompasses everything.
Just like it’s impossible to observe Macro evolution, yet i see atheists using it as if it somehow disproves the existence of a god.
You claimed it was stupid" In this day and age, with our information and knowledge" to believe in a god.
This implies something has come out that disproves god, when in reality one of the largest scientific discoveries of the 20th century validates word for word (with the exception of the word god) the first page of genesis, and disproves what was thought for thousands of years, which is the universe being eternal and infinite.
Modern Atheism and Anti theism sprouted from cultural Marxism, that infested the 60s. people did not stop believing in god in the west en mass because of scientific evidence, but because of the communist propaganda that infiltrated our culture.
Okay, I get the difference between this statements, the one is claiming that atheism is acceptable as long as just a few people don´t believe in god, if more people don´t believe in god, society is doomed.
I must say czech society works better than american society, I don´t know if there is any other christian in the team than Rick, who is American.
Yes, Tribalism makes sence if you are a tribe.
In a specific environment the human is always weaker than animals. Crocodiles are stronger in the water, lions are stronger on land. The only way for humans to survive is if they form a group and work together as a tribe.
They change the environment to their advantage and with this behaviour they are even able to survive in an environment which is hostile to life. Like the south pole or in space. People were able to change the environment on the moon for a couple of hours, long enough, so they can walk on it. They took their environment with them.
To be able to do this, you need a complex society with labor division.
Tribes don´t have labor division, or they just have it on a very low level, everyone can do everything, and it is important that everything shares the same ideas and the same goals, because they need to stay together. The new, the foreign and the strange endangering the group because there is the danger, that they split up the group, and this will weaken both halfs of the groups to the point, that it can be a thread to the live of everyone.
People see it as right, as moral to behave in the same way, as they do. They use moral, and divide between good and bad to force people to come back into the society and follow the rules of society.
It can be unmoral or moral, good or bad to be a leftist, or a right wing person, depending on the view of the person.
It can be unmoral or moral to be gay or straight, to believe in god or not to believe, to be white or black, to be poor or rich, to be a man or a woman, to be healty or invalid, to play on Playstation or XBox.
but modern society isn´t a tribe, it is complex. Where is the borderline of your tribe?
White people? Right wing people? Rich people? Males?
The nazis had problems to decide who is a jew and who is not. There is a protocoll of the Wannseekonferenz from 1942, when they tried to solve the question of the jews, what to do with them and who is a jew, and they were argue to each other.
If a pure German and a Jew get a child. Will the superior German blood push out the jewish one, or will the Jewish blood spoil the German one. And if this child gets a child with a German child, is it still Jewish or not anymore?
They don´t wanted to kill pure germans, but which germans are pure and which ones are spoiled?
They were not able to agree on this.
What is your tribe @SirWarriant? White people? right wing people? Christians?
Only right wing people who are right wing Christians? Is this the culture? When was the time when this culture was pure?
You some blind spots in your view. This is one of them.
The other one is that you do not understand where marxism is coming from, and that it is a direct development of capitalism. Marxism refers to capitalism, it is its child. Capitalist structures made it possible for Marxism to exist. it is the cause of a root. But you don´t see that, because here you have another blind spot in your view.
They are wrong and you are wrong too. You try to cure cancer with cancer. Yes, they are racists and sexist, they just hide it under another layer as they say they fight the establishment or the patriacy, or they just fight white males because they fight the oppressors. Right people say, they fight black people because they fight criminality.
And this switches the focus away from the problem and onto a personal level. The core of the problem is not in the focus anymore and a solution becomes nearly impossible because people are not able to see the cause anymore. Instead they fight against persons which are representatives of the problem.
Marxist-left people want to fight against poverty. They say capitalism is the cause, but they can´t fight capitalism. So they fight people who they think are the representatives of capitalism, for example, Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the enemy now, if he gets beaten, they beat capitalism and help poor people. But Donald Trump is far away and can´t be beaten, so they beat someone off, who voted for Trump, because he is the representation of Trump. And then they call it a fight for justice, because they have a blind spot for the causes.
You make the same, just from the other way around. And you have the same stupid gaps in your ideology as they have, just at different positions.
Here, I give you a few christian values to chew on:
1. Treat Refugees the Way You Want to Be Treated When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
2. Provide Food for the Needy and the Foreigner When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. (Leviticus 19:9-10)
3. We Should Love Foreigners - After All, God Does Too He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)
4. Do Not Abuse Foreigners Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
5. Fight for Justice for Foreigners Living Among You "So I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me," says the Lord Almighty. (Malachi 3:5)
6. Open Your Door to the Traveler No stranger had to spend the night in the street, for my door was always open to the traveler (Job, discussing his devotion to God) (Job 31:32)
7. Invite the Stranger In For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ (Matthew 25:25-36)
8. Love Your Neighbor For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Galatians 5:14)
9. Show Mercy to Your Neighbor
He asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
In reply, Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’
“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”
Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.” (Luke 10:29-37)
You do not follow christian values, you just cherrypick and use your own personal moral codex and then call it the right ones, and this are the christian values now and declare that this values are the values of your tribe.
Which Christians are the Sane ones please, and which Christians are the insane ones?
Over and over you need to do some mental gymnastics to justify your values. The same mental gymnastics modern feminism has to do when they justify Islam. For them it is completely reasonable because the cause relies somewhere else and they are lost in the complexity of modern societey, they are inconsistent, but you are too.
You are not even able to understand that I am not a marxist, I refuse marxism for the same reasons you do. It harms the economy and starts proxy wars in the believe they fight for justice and against poverty.
If that’s what you got from either of my statements, then you need to take an English exam, and really work on your reading comprehension. Either that or you may want to get tested for dyslexia.
Ah, you must know this from your vast experience in America?
My “tribe” would be whites, since that is my race. If you want to get evermore technical than that, it would be American, and since for the majority of Americas history we were 90% white, that is the way think we should be since it’s what made us the nation we are.
Yeah, because the nazis were totally the only ones who wanted to keep their nation homogeneous. If you had pulled just about any random European off the street during the 40s, regardless of nationality and told them in 70 years their decedents were losing their culture, and in a real danger of becoming minorities in their own countries, they would have been horrified.
What the fuck are you on about?? How does this pertain to what i said at all?
Why is it wrong to look after the interests of your race? Ethnically homogeneous societies are always better off than “diverse” societies. There is no benefit to diversity, aka less white people.
Actually unlike your Marxists thug buddies, i don’t roam the street violently beating people for having different opinions.
Your apologetic tone is disgusting, given Marxism is the single biggest killer of the 20th century.
Can you please point to where is i said we shouldn’t help refugees?
And you’re hilariously delusional if you think even 20% of the people pouring into Europe and the U.S are anything but economic migrants.
Again can you point to where i said we shouldn’t do this? My country gives more foreign aid than any European nation.
I have nothing against the migrants, (except the ones committing crimes)i would likely do the same in their position, but that does not mean i think we should allow them to pour unchecked into our nations.
Again, none of these are contradictory to my views. Most migrants are fit, healthy military aged males, not starving homeless people.
Anyone who has money and does not donate to the poor, is wrong.
You haven’t provided a single fucking example of something contradictory to my views. Not one. None of those quotes in anyway imply you should allow mass migration into your land, and most of them seem to indicate helping homeless people. I have stated multiple times, we should be helping the migrants in their own nations, since migration actually hurts the ones left behind, not to mention its more economical, and easier on everyone.
Again work on reading comprehension.
Holy fuck man, get some fucking reading glasses, i never called you a marxist.
Yeah, but you are putting me on the same side of them. I am not, Marxists are not my buddies. I would them also not call my enemies. I would call their ideology harmfull.
Same for right people. I have no problem with the people, I have a problem with the ideology.
Because of your apologetic tone. And you literally just claimed i was as bad as street thugs who advocate the mass murder of the “bourgeoisie” and the theft of their wealth, not to mention these are the same people who regularly cause riots, beat people up in the street, and are responsible for the largest mass genocides in history.
All because i don’t want to become a minority in my own nation.
There are over a dozen latin American nations that were communist, and still are to this day. And the people from those lands do not change their political stances when they come here.
There are exceptions to averages of course, but there are very clear ideological patterns observable amongst races.