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I want a source for that, further more hospitals are required by law to service you, even if you cannot afford it.

Like i said above health insurance may be expensive in the U.S but you get what you pay for, doctors here are usually higher quality, same with the hospitals because they’re in the private sector and get paid more.

The U.S spends only 4% of its GDP on military which is far less than what we were spending even 8 years ago. Even if you were to cut the entire military budget it wouldn’t even pay for ONE social program for a year.

We could save a lot of money if Europe got their shit together and actually gave a shit about defending themselves.

You cannot stop private companies from being biased, it’s their right. In Europe you still have biased news, but the citizens have to pay money to the biased news sources, which is not the case in the U.S.

In what way does me being in favour of small government and low taxes collide with have (real ) Liberal views? Leftists who you claim tend to be more Libertarian advocate for higher taxes ie forcing people to give up their wealth just because they were more successful than others, are usually for banning guns, and silencing anyone who disagrees with them.

lol, nice joke, but let’s be serious here. Lefies are silent about leftist-authoritarian policies because they are in favor of them. Being silent is one thing, but you guys keep on voting for this nightmare that the west is becoming. You vote for “free” healthcare? Well that is an authoritarian policy where you ask the state to steal from the populus at gunpoint so that you don’t have to pay for your health care (even though you still do, because you pay the ridiculous European taxes for it). Same thing applies to subsidized housing, free tuition, public schools, unemployment, .etc. Both the libertarian and the right-wing thing to do in these cases would be to let people pay private companies of their choice for the healthcare and schooling, and let private charities take care of the poverty. So if Libertarians and Right-wingers aren’t voting for it, who is? Oh, right, this imaginary left-libertarian majority. Now, if you vote for these things, you are not really a libertarian, now are you? The same thing applies for gun-control and regulations on businesses, who is voting for these things?

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Just because I’m not for the “charity will solve poverty” utopia doesn’t mean I vote for authoritative who wants to regulate guns, build fences and such…
If you see all taxes as authoritative then only liberal is anarchy capitalist.

All taxes are authoritative. It is the authority of the state taking your money to use as they see fit. What else could it be? And considering how most leftists want more programs that will raise taxes and state power, that means that most leftists are authoritarians. It is simple, if you vote for welfare, subsidized heathcare and housing, “free” tuition, or anything of that manner, you are not a libertarian, forcing people to pay for services they don’t want is not liberty.

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Yes taxes are authoritative and state itself is. So anyone tolerate state taking taxes to take care of basic things like police, fire brigade, healthcare, schooling, army… etc. can’t call himself an anarchist or extreme liberal.

But it is not just that simple. It does not ends there. There are things like state spying on people, making restriction like what are people allowed to do or listen or watch, what they are allowed to sell or buy or consume, censorship and such.

So I think it is perfectly possible to someone to be for state care of healthcare and education to some degree and still be liberal.

Yesteday:

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That’s why Libertarians (at least in the U.S) are supposed to be for small government.

shocking whats happened in Orlando. fucking savages

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I just heard about it. Holy Crap, I’m enrolled in University of Central Florida, a school in Orlando, this one hit rather close to me.

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Yeah brutal stuff.

Whats more sad is people are already up in arms about gun control.

Give people time to mourn you fucking cunts, before you turn them into martyrs for your political agenda. Yah know what I mean?

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Yeah, this makes it the largest shooting in U.S history with 50 dead so far.

Yeah the guy was on the terror watch list two years before this happened and he was still allowed to buy a gun. The government wants to pass more gun legislation when they can’t even enforce the laws they currently have in place.

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Well the shooter pledge allegiance to ISIS, so it looks like the religion of peace has struck again.

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Were the guns used registered to him ? I would of thought if it’s actually ISIS involved (rather than a lone wolf ) they would be slightly more sophiscated and got the weaponry through indirect means . E.g stolen , black market or someone else buy them

Apparently he purchased them, although since the shooting just happened today it might not be accurate. I believe they were saying the San Bernadino shooters bought their guns, but it was later revealed that they had relatives purchase them for them.

My father who recently acquired his FFL (allows you to legally sell weapons) was told by the ATF officer (who was conducting the home inspection part of the license process), that the government has 3 days to respond to a request for a background check for a gun. If they don’t respond the person gets the gun without the background check, and apparently this happens quite often.

OMG IM FUCKING DYING.

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truth be told I watch his Last week tonight shows, I find them enjoyable.
Though when he talked about refugees I felt he didnt understood the issue at all.

I like those videos where he is talking about some fucked up murican systems.

He’s nothing but a leftist propaganda machine, HBO is owned by Time Warner, and Time Warner donated quite a sizable amount of money to Hillary Clinton’s campaign fund. I wouldn’t trust a word he says, do your own research on “fucked up murican” systems.

The left loves to make the U.S out to be the worst country in the world, and makes Europe out to be a socialist paradise, that we should model ourselves after.

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why, I dont give a damn about US systems.

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U.S out to be the worst country in the world
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I dont think it is the worst country in the world. There is much more worse countries.
Still I would not want to live there.

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