This is confusing. @TheDivineInfidel
This was posted above as well . As I said , itâs Britain first they donât have a brain cell between them .
(They are a far right anti-Islam group )
Very good game . But once you start kicking arse it gets boring fast . So campaigns donât last too long , few hours tops .
But none the less a good game . If you can afford it then get it but I wouldnât sacrifice your lunch for it 
No, I got blutered and scuttered.
I was smashed and hammered and completely langers.
Fatally flutered and banjoâd.
I was done, jared, addled, battered, bashed, bent, dhut, and fecked, flushed and giddy, jolly, hosed, mollo and lit, potted and finally wedi meddwi
Thats pretty great gayjob!
There is not a single gun control measure that has been proposed in US that would have prevented this from happening.
The guy went through back ground check by:
- police when getting guns
- employer (G4S)
He was vetted 3 times by the FBI. FBI didnât put him on terror watchlist.
He had access to G4S firearms, he was actually carrying a gun while on job.
Sometimes shit happens.
Sometimes evil people do evil deeds.
It is just politicians trying to feed on the tragedy by implying that they can control human behavior by imposing more rules on people.
This guy would not have been affected by any single gun control measure proposed. The people most affected by them would be actually the 49 whom he killed.
The 49 who were actually disarmed by existing Florida laws that prevent people to carry firearms within places that serve alcohol, i.e. the club where the massacre took place.
I donât often go to pubs, but when I do I am always armed (because I am simply armed where ever I go). Thankfully our laws make sense - they prevent me from drinking while armed, not from entering any specific area.
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Guncontrol is certianly not the way.
But in overall view, actual functioning laws would definitely impove the situation. Though probably not in this case.
Though the law restricting carrying gun into a place where alcohol is served does not seem like a bad idea if almost anyone can get a gun there.
Here obtaining guns is probably not that easy so restricting guns in pubs is not necessary.
But i know really little about guns and gun laws. So feel free to ignore my babbling.
You are right on that point in general.
However as far as I understand getting concealed carry license in Florida is on par, maybe a bit more difficult than getting a license here.
He had CC license, so in effect he went through the same process as a gun owner/CCer would here.
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it was reported here that he an off duty officer did actually attempt to take him on .out side the club with a side arm but was unsuccessful in stopping him .
if youâre consuming any alcohol you shouldnt be handling a gun .
the law enforcement need to do more preventive work . if a guy with a gun turns up willing to kill and has made it to his target its too late .
im sure some of you have heard .
the UK also had a shooting yesterday , a member of parliament was murdered yesterday after trying to break up a fight .
she got invloved and this nut job turned on her . pull out a gun and shot her 3 times
credit to the unarmed officers and local man who chased him down though .
also to the 77 year old man who tried to save the poor woman . hes now in a stable condition in hospital
http://news.sky.com/story/1713596/jo-cox-suspects-right-wing-links-probed
What pisses me off most about Orlando as well as UherskĂ˝ Brod is the police tactic of negotiating with the perpetrator once the active shooter situation turns into hostage stand-off.
Once you know people were shot it means you know that there are wounded victims bleeding out. Get the fuck in and deal with it, one way or the other it canât be worse than waiting and talking.
I wonder how many of the 49 may have lived had the SWAT rushed in immediately after arriving instead of waiting 3 hours.
That was a bouncer that was at the time it started outside. The fact that the fucker got through with AR 15 is also telling (if it is true that it all started inside). There is a difference between being in the same space with the shooter and having a shot at thim and entering into a place where shooter is at.
As long as you have (1) luck in not being aimed at by the shooter among first victims and (2) moment of surprise, there is some slight chance. The bouncer had neither, and given his line of work I suppose (have no source for that) he only had a little snubnose.[quote=âTheDivineInfidel, post:891, topic:27880â]
if youâre consuming any alcohol you shouldnt be handling a gun
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Why is it such a difficult idea for so many people to distinguish between entering a pub armed and drinking alcohol armed?
Just double checked He was an off duty police officer but also worked as a bouncer .
What weapon he was carrying I donât know . Other than it was a side arm .
Because it wasnât a pub it was a club . No one goes to a night club and doesnât drink .
The negoating is a stall tactic . They had no intention of giving him anything .
Storming a building without first having some kind of plan is not a good idea and not one that miltary or law enforcement are keen on doing .
So the tactic of getting the suspects to stop and talk
For a period of time is absolutely golden .
It allowed the police or miltary to gather information . Where exactly is the gunmen in the building ? How many hostages are there with him ? Can he escape ? What entry options are available ? What weapons they have ? How many are there ?
However they will also have an emergency plan in place in case itâs deemed he is going to start killing more . which is normally just smash your way in as loud as possible .
Well I do. So do basically all Czech CCers and designated drivers.
Three hours stall means that basically anyone with a shot wound has bled to death by that time.
This tactic is employed only when the attacker himself changes the game, police donât do so. At least not here, and I very much doubt they do so in the US.
you go out to a night club âŚyou know dancing âŚwithout drinking ? âŚjheeez bet your fun at parties
this is where you are thinking with emotion .
anyone already shot forget them . first job is avoid anymore being shot . you wait , and plan as best as you can . you do not run in to a building that you have no idea the layout of and no idea how many gunmen there are . or any idea if its been booby trapped .
unless you have no other option because the attackers are killing everyone .
thats how more people die .
patience and discipline is absolutely key .
which he did so by barricading himself in a toilet when police engaged him âŚ
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