We have freedom!

ohh come on now . who speaks for the EU the most ? what leader does the EU lay the carpet down for the most ? merkal thats who she is the top dog there is no hiding that

why would we want to half quit ?

we have voted to leave the table so its within our interest to leave completely , not leave the table but still do what those at the table say .

free trade agreement with the EU thats it nothing more .

Nice argument. As far as I kow your Queen wants to stay in and she often went over a red carpet.
So she could order the Brits to stay? I can roll out a red carpet for you, do some nice chating and after this, I do the opposit you like to be done.

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Come on,… Australia is part of Europe. :smile:
They made the second place in the Eurovision Song Contest

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I apologize for my mistake. Europe ends at the Urals and of course Australia isn’t behind this mountains. So Aussis are europeans who just live a little farer away. :wink:

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and you know this how ? considering she NEVER offers an opinion not even to the PM .

infact the last rumour even hinting at an opinion offered the complete opposite she she "apparently " but i doubt it demanded some guests give her 3 good reasons of remaining in

Maybe I’m wrong. I can’t remember when someone had talked about the royal family would vote for the EU. There are often comments about the royal family how are more false guesses than the truth.

Neverless a red carpet is just a sign of diplomacy and I guess that every head of state of a memberstate of the EU walks over it in Brussels. Only the media do not show every head of state so often like Merkel. I personal can’t remember when the media showed the prime minister of Malta the last time.

That would mean that City of London would be desolated by banking sector, and all companies that have their “EU Headquarters” in UK.

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When people cry for independence, they often do it because they see their problems resulting from dependency. But most of the time they don’t have the expertise to see the outcome and economical reality or do not inform themselves enough.
They vote with their hearts.

And when people follow mostly their hearts, chaos and hate will rule because they are louder than the voice of reason. Most people want change because of change, on the other side people stay because of fear of the new.
It’s a difficult topic and I don’t know what’s right, but voting with the heart is not how you create a better future.

Just a little thought.

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Everytime I see arguments like these, I always tell such people one thing: Imagine that roles are switched - Imagine that somebody - somebody you don´t probably even know - says you are too stupid or uneducated to vote. Its really easy to now say: “Only people with finished high school and with perfect mental health should be allowed to vote, for the good of our society”. It sounds reasonable right? Only such people know what is good for their country, it makes sense to do it this way.

But when another important referendum or elections will end up in way that is not comfortable with men in power, you may suddenly find out that rules have changed. “Only college degree graduates are now allowed to vote”. Well they are the elite of our country, certainly they will know best what to do, right?

4 years later, another elections ends with uncomfortable results and suddenly: Only economic and society studies graduates with 3 years of experience in relevant work positions are now allowed to vote and there is minimum IQ of 130 to vote.
Suddenly, only those already in power will have the right to change direction of your country - and suddenly you have absolutory dictatorship, and it only took 3 major elections. Great job smart people!

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It is done, Britains choice to leave is fix and the mayority voted to leave. And of the story, no discussions who and why and when. Votes are equal and finished. All European countries now writing with big letterheads #Bregret and new referendum are realy showing that Europe (Brussel) is not accepting a decision that is contrair to their own dreams and wishes. Now through media they start to force something that will suit more. However, the Brexit topic is so boring as it was with the Grexit. There are only a little people understanding what this is realy about and I doubt that me and many others belong to them. Im out…

i agree there should of been more of a road map as such .

But what I don’t agree with is when people suggest there should of been some kind of manifesto by the leave campaign . That misses the entire point of leaving which is to give us the control to shape our country as Brits to how we feel and how we belive as a society we should conduct ourselves .

In turn meaning we should now be coming together as a country I would say with a new general election and for the parties to put forward their vision and their policies of a UK without the EU .

For us as the people to decide in a democratic way the route we wish to take .

Let us say “this Europe”…partial approval … Europe is still Europe remain, with or without EU.
The problems began 1) with the eastern extension 2) the introduction of the Euro’s - which has not necessarily to do one with the other, but is perceived by Europeans as 3) with the softening of the convergence criteria to this “common currency” which served to rescue banks that had gambled in their greed, and - last but not least, 4) in the dogmatism of MEPs without feeling for individualism and decency towards the mass of the underprivileged. The daily life of Europeans can not BWLer, lawyers and social workers rules but based on common sense, on worries of livelihood and an aging in dignity, to healthy food, to affordable health, personal safety and protection of property.

Whether the English way is better - you will see. It is clear that Europe has led to the mass of the (central) -Europäer rather more bondage and uncertainty