Guys i’m back my PC shop got this refurbished desktop in as good as new state
https://www.centralpoint.nl/pcs/hp/z240-tower-art-1wv56etabb-num-7866509/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=productlistingads&ref=115&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI48yliOWH2QIVGmQZCh0Z5g9JEAkYASABEgIGI_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CMCDtY_mh9kCFUKZdwodmeAOkA
But it got windows 10 and 1 TB for just 499 euros.
it’s proccessor is just as good as an i7, he also has a gtx 1050ti in stock for 150 euros.
He says this setup can play all the current games on high/ultra no problem.
what do you guys think?
I would not get it, but that’s just me. Wait to see what others say…
That’s silly. Don’t listen merchant. He would even sell you shit covered in golden package. And most of all refurbished… Don’t be cheap and if you want good rig, look for official retailers. Wait for discount. It’s a lot of money.
Why not it has really good specs and he is a trusted merchant. The gtx 1050 ti is also good for current gaming.
As far as I can say I think the PC is pretty decent only thing is the GPU that is middle class
so you will probably be able to play it on medium settings
I’d say go for it, enjoy the game and then upgrade your gpu some day when the prices are lower
alternatively you can ask your merchant again if he has a better gpu like the gtx 970 it shouldnt bee too pricey either and its still pretty good (I have one myself)
It’s good enough for today’s gaming. But if I bought now, I would not take it unless you are on budget. We have different priorities and budgets. I know they will lower prices because they’re about to introduce new GPUs this or next month. They leaked info about them. I personally look after minimum GTX1060 and i5 and 8RAM for 1000€. Or ideally for GTX1070 and i7 and 16RAM for 1100€. But most pre-builts don’t have 16RAM or are very expensive. Here in Ireland, there is only Dell and some retailers and refurbished ones.
I also found a second hand gtx 1060 6gb
The minimum specs to start with are: GTX1060 + i5 + 8RAM. Anything under that, forget about it. Good luck and happy hunting!
Guys look at this
HP Gaming Z420 Workstation
Processor: 1x XeonQuad Core E5-1620 3.60Ghz/turbo 3.80 GHz
Geheugen: 16GB DDR3 ECC REG 1600MHz (4x4GB)
Opslag: 256GB SSD /2TB SATA 6G DVDRW
Grafische kaart: Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB
OS: Win 10 Pro
It’s fine. 
just 850 euros in my country, trusted website, good build isn’t it?
Nice build and really good price. Current price for such machine in my country would be kinda higher. Yes, go for it. You won’t run KCD on Ultra, but my guess is you will get decently high settings with playable FPS.
Ah-h-h, you want to buy a built PC? Isn’t good idea. Better to make by yourself. But, yeah, with such a price, better to get it. So, do it. 
I have been searching for so long for a decent gaming pc. 
Yeah, it’s hard now. I still can’t get a new video card, cus 1060 might be a good thing, but i want a 1080ti. Those miners ruined everything. Now video cards costs like the best PC. In Russia at least.
graphic cards will be cheap again. BTC is going down, I guess we will have opportunity to upgrade our rigs for much better price 
I’ll be waiting for GTX 20xx series. No point now to buy last generation. 
any clue when new generation will come out?
@CountDaan I’d go for it, sure building a PC yourself might be a bit cheaper but requires knowledge which parts work together well and is much more work, you can still exchange parts when you buy this pc
XeonQuad Core E5-1620 о_О
16GB DDR3 О_о
DVDRW No need to buy if u already have something like this.
Looks like granny’s comp. Somewhere you are being fooled.