Xbox one X and PS4 Pro bad optimization

Will there be a patch that adresses bad fps and especially the horrible stutters and LOD Pop in on the enhanced consoles ? It currently feels like we are playing the base versions. I don’t see any difference between base xbox and xbox one X it just doesn’t exist. Fix the Pop in and LOD issues at least. I made this post to raise awareness of the issue.

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I got an Xbox One and the stutters are so bad that I can’t play I mean I literally can’t play that I can’t have accuracy in fights I can’t shoot an arrow I can’t even f****** walk straight I mean for the love of God another thing is is like I said just see if you can do this get on your horse and jump over a fence or something and see if your horse will jump really high in the air when it’s stuttering I was able to jump over the whole town of ledetchko

Its good to know the stuttering issue isn’t just an issue with my console but others as well

Same here horrible stuttering and lag. It wasn’t too bad at first. I just had stuttering in towns but yesterday it was everywhere. I tried reloading saves but no luck.

I’m a huge supporter of console gaming, but this is the exact reason I changed my kickstarter pledge to receive PC version.

I’m sorry you guys are dealing with this. Hopefully they focus on it. There’s really no excuse for it not to play exceptional on XBOX ONE X.

Yes- excuse is they should be getting an improved (stable) experience greater than base xbox or the revised s.

Around a decade ago (before nvidia released Fermi architecture cards), most older cards got optimisations first when getting driver updates.
Nvidia went with an design that would at a marketing level sound better (more shaders) but forwver more had to optimise their cards on a per card/game level.

In the short term there was high cost to this, that was easy to recoup as- as customers thought they were consumer focused and doing the optimisations ‘for them’(the customer).

Somewhere after series seven (they skipped eight cause ‘why not’(again marketing) they nearly exclusively optimised newer architecture via drivers leaving ‘last years cards’ with less than optimal performance. They have done this over several generations now.
It has netted them a lot of sales.
Especially as year on year out they can show nice stats/graphs showing how much stronger the new cards are (they are not, although architecture is now designed for better dual screen (3D/VR) usage),…

So in the same way a 1060 isnt really stronger than mid tier cards from the gen before (eg 970),… nor is the 780 (previous gens high end) a weak part. (Sometimes users complaining about the discrepancies force their hand to make older cards eg 780GTX perform as they should…) but through lack of ‘driver tweaking’ to use the strange (mismatched) shader sizes effectively in games… they sell us new parts.

Anyhow this is an aside talking about graphics cards-more to establish industry norm.
For the longest time we optimised for lowest common denominator hardware (eg the older xbox/playstation) as they have the poorest experience. Generally people on cutting edge hardware will get by…

I agree that once optimised this game will play nicely…
But to say there is no reason the xbox x shouldnt be optimised already… it isnt a priority from a game makers point of view. (Unless they are a first party Microsoft studio- in which case it would be to the detriment of PC and regular xboxes…Microsoft being the doggiest when it comes to forcing consumers hands; just look at forza horizen 3 and other microsoft releases- all designed to make pcs with ultra hardware perform worse than an xbox to have users jump ship to xboxs…)

There is a lot of money behind these antics… and no- we customers dont drive the market the way we think we do.
Anyhow Warhorse not being owned by M $- they havent gimped everyone but xbox x :wink:

Wgen they have pc platform sorted a lil better (eg actually dealing with game issues (affect everyone) vs platform issues (affects some).

Personally I think they are trying to sort out what is what. (This is where keeping thread topics relevant and helping the devs with a usefully filled forum is very handy).

Not trying to start a flamewar or say that xbox x is shit (when I do give that rant it would be rather self explanatory)…

I like consoles. Especially when they allow more people at the watercooler at work to discuss the same game…
But it is fair to say that xbox x optimisation should be at the bottom of the list for platform smoothing.
Poor first gen xbox one users have about 40% less grunt than the base PS4. They would need it most- but probably dont have the market share to justify targeting that over PS4 (way more users)

My main argument is the xbox one x has the most power of all the consoles, so they should have been able to “semi-optimize” the game out of the gate where it had a steady framerate.

And they should stop making games for last gen consoles. Or rather, it should not be expected / the norm.

Last gen consoles arent having games made for them.

Ps4 and xbox one are present gen.
Xbox x and ps4 pro are half generation jumps.
Sony did so for logical reasons/ microsoft did so cause its first take at this gen was sooo underpowered and they had been killed at market

Either way the improved consoles will generally get tweaked after game is made to perform reliably on all platforms. (Everybodys needs outweighting the needs of a few)

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I disagree. I think the Xbox One X is a pretty damn big jump.

Xbox 360 has 0.24 teraflops
Xbox One has 1.31 teraflops.
Xbox One X has 6 teraflops.

That’s pretty impressive. Could it have been more powerful? Sure. But I think the Xbox One X is being undervalued a bit by you. Just my opinion. I think this year and next you’re going to see a lot of games come out on the Xbox One X that have been properly optimized, that look pretty damn impressive on 4K tvs, etc.

Never said the xbox x isnt a more powerful console (certainly vs previous xboxes).

I dont doibt games will be made for it.
I dont respect ot due to whatit is doing tothe games industry.
(A sales model allowing microsoft to fleece consumers more regularly, and making console generations jump sooner than they have too- whilst making disparaging levels of hardware on the market so multiplats will suffer.

Previous experience of the games market operating this way is tge least powerful system becoming the market guide.

Games will be optimised for ps4 (most number of units), with enhanced version going to ps4 pro and xbox x. (Which may be more powerful but for most cross platform titles wont really do much).
4k - sure for stills.

Most peoples 4k tvs wont render six-eight hundred lines of motion resolution. (And they are the top of the lines sets)
Most average tvs wont render 400 lines of motion resolution.

Gaming at higher frame rates and with more details/complex objects should be the target, but that requires polishing games for different platforms and will not prove the way most multiplatform games go.
(They will get more res on xbox x/ with equal framerates to ps4 pro in typical real world releases - albeit running at 1400p rather than 1080)

The xbox x destroys gaming for consumers way more than it helps as games on consoles typically prove best after second and third gen titles come to market.

Around which time you will be sold an xbox 720XX

Mr Bernard is stuttering bugged some towns the same way. After restarting the 4th time around and this time I read downloaded the whole game and it it’s really good but I’m at the point where I’ve taken care of Ricky and no bugs yet but at this point if I go to anywhere the mill to get Timmy Samopesh sassau I mean anywhere Beyond Ledetchko stutter locked

As well any lessons with Bernard complete stutter lock I’m at the point in the game something’s happening to where everything is just going to s*** so I’m going to a download previously and going to stick around right rattay until they fix this s***

I’m doing everything I can to help them out as far as the games concerned I mean I think figuring out that Bernard and his training lessons he’s stutter f****** riffic I mean first of all the guy walks like he has f****** Parkinson’s and then on top of that don’t even bother trying to fight the guy Jesus it’s f*** it I’ll give you a headache real quick let alone after you’re done fighting him you’re going to experience constant stutter and it will be just like the game breaking stutter and it will not go away so I advise everybody if you’re after the point where you’re doing your Bandit missions you’re okay to get Bandit missions from him but do not f****** practice with him aside from the basic practice offered at the beginning of the game go somewhere else to practice go fight with Bandits at least your game won’t break

Thanks for sharing these ideas.