About that monastery

Gameplay
#1

I liked the idea of the mission, (though it’s a bit implausible a universally loved local hero can slip into a monastic order under a false name)

But now, I can successfully do my days work and still be considered ‘neglecting my duties’

This feels either bugged or badly implemented :confused:

I caught a whiff of this mission being somewhat timed, so I have absolutely no time to search for that ‘Pious’ dude, because even if I do my duty and get my work of the day done, I can’t go to the loo without ‘neglecting my duty’

this is…frustrating…

#2

No, the quest is correct. You neglect your duties if you aren’t in the exact place at the exact time. And no, this isn’t rush timed or anything, as you can do the full quest line of the Abbot etc. Edit: don’t fault the game if you don’t know where to do your duties, that’s the beauty of this game. It makes you have to think/learn/ figure out stuff. You’ll get scolded a few times in the monastery, but sooner or later you’ll be a pro monk in no time and be on time to your duties .

#3

That quest is bugged in the extreme. Best to just skip it.

#4

Well, If my duty is to make 2 potions, I make and deliver them, it is a bit stupid if I am prohibited from leaving the room for hours to come…

#5

You’re just going to find folks like me that agree with you, and folks like Cedius who think you are asking too much of the game developers.

Best to trudge through it, accept it for what it is, or skip it entirely.

#6

I got up to the point of speaking with the noble kid and his minder. Problem being that as soon as I’d got rid of the minder so the kid and I could talk alone, it had bugged out and I wasn’t given the option to talk to him.

So I ended up breaking into the monastery through the side door, and sneaking up to the sleeping quarters. After some trial and error I eventually found the correct acolyte and stealth killed him. Stole his dice, and progressed the story.

Wasn’t ideal, because the monks and their guards hate me… but I really wasn’t keen on the monastic life :smile:

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#7

Well, it just feels a bit odd like being told to clean up your room. And once you’re done and you’re about to leave your room, your dad’s gonna yell at you, to clean your fucking room …

The game certainly notices that i made the potions, as the quest got updated…

#8

Use that time to sneak around. Or wait. Or read. Or make extra potions to trade for lockpicks.

I went sneaking around at night to try and investigate the novices and found some hypocrites in the cellar boozing and playing dice.

I was invited to join and it actually helped me get some more information on a novice.

I think part of this entire quest is finding the time to investigate and not be a good monk.

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#9

I can’t really sneak around, as the game instantly knows and tells me that I am ‘neglecting’ my duties, once I so much as set a foot outside of the room where I made the potions.

And later in the middle of eating supposedly in silence, the enforcer dudes showed up and skalded me for not showing up for work…

#10

Exactly the point. You have to neglect your duties in order to investigate. I had the exact same notice while I was sneaking around at night, and found the cuitators, or whatever they’re called, boozing and dicing in the cellar and if you help them with a quest, they may go easier on you when enforcing it. They won’t enforce the rules on you when you catch them in the middle of breaking them. They outright invited me to join them for a drink.

When you get the notice that you are neglecting your duties, that simply means if one of the enforcers catch you, you’ll be questioned and probably escorted back, or put in solitary confinement for a period of time if you can’t satisfy their questions or get caught repeatedly.

Doing some of the quests in the monastery requires you to be outside your designated area for periods of time.

This period of the game is an excellent place to improve your reading, alchemy, stealth and lockpicking skills, and maybe pickpocketing too.

Don’t worry about being outside the designated area. Just don’t get caught.

EDIT: I also got told off for not showing up for work (the library section since I had trouble finding it for awhile.) It’s best to do your sneaking around at night, and maybe try to work the politics a bit.

Of course, in real life the two monks wanting to be Abbot ended up becoming abbot, in the same year in fact. The first one, John, didn’t last long.

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#11

It’s a great quest, but there definitely are still some bugs. If you struggle too long in figuring things out, sometimes the schedules get skewed, and circators then start busting things for things you didn’t even do.

The entire quest can be done very quickly in the correct way, however. A good tip has already been presented in this thread with befriending the circators, which makes things go much more smoothly. Another I might suggest would be to explore the kitchen very thoroughly during breakfast or supper. Lastly, I would suggest being rather forward in your intent with the initiates.

Good luck.

#12

Just climb over the scaffolding. Kill all novices and bail.

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#13

I’m hoping to bring him to justice, rather than cutting him up…no clue how to do that, though

#14

You have to do a lot of investigative work at night on account of your strict daily schedule

#15

I was able to get Pious to the Rattay jail. Fact is you have to uncover him and talk to him, and in my case, work with him to escape the monastery and fake his death. The monastery is practically a prison. They don’t let anyone who’s not a monk in, but the monks can’t really leave either.

Legwork is definitely required to get Pious to face justice legally, and I don’t want to spoil anything. Just remember, one of the novices is Pious.

Also, as a hint, think of the nicknames of the bandits who fled Neuhof. Limpy Lubosh had a limp, Reeky was a tanner and thus, well, reeked. Think about what having the nickname Pious might mean for a background.

#16

Things are still odd. When, according to my schedule, I have free time in the evening, being in the Square hallway is considered neglecting ones duty. And the schedule says you can substitute prayer and such for meals and sleeping, yet when its time to eat or sleep, the chappel itself is considered off limits.

Things your are supposed to do or explicitl allowed to do, are still punisheable…

That is immersion breaking, and when it causes you to use up good will with the circators, it’s frustrating…

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#17

Do you want somebody to agree with you? Yes, the whole mission sucks ass.

And, it’s especially frustrating afterwards if the game decides to give you never-ending monastery daily updates for the rest of the game after you finish the quest.

#18

Honestly I liked the quest. What I didn’t like was trying to copy Latin and being yelled at every time I got it wrong. I don’t get daily updates for the monestary.

#19

I like the general idea but the implementation seems…sloppy…at times.

#20

I think you just became a monk.

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