I hope they add the ability to upload your own crest to make the game more personal. Crests on your Armor/Flag/Cape/Banner/ECT. So what would you add your crest to and what does your crest looks like mine is my avatar.
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I actually sent warhorse a PM about this on kickstarter, they said âYes. It is being considered. But maybe not for Act 1. We will seeâ. Thatâs direct from the team.
My avatar is my familyâs real coat of arms, which it has been since the 13th century, the crest is the part on top of the shield by the way, and would have been worn on a knights helmet and banners etc. The arms would have been on the shield.
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yea this is my real family crest the only deference is the real one is blue but i like it in red
Ah, sorry looked to me like youâd made it in paint. How old is it?
i think warhorse meant that you can adapt a crest if if you become a minor noble.
it makes no sense for family crests from 1800 england or something to be in bohemia 1403.
Gathered here is the most comprehensive repository of primary source materials, web links, and other information on the early Belknap family of England, with particular emphasis on Sir Robert Belknap (about 1330-1401), who served as Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas of England commencing in 1377 until his banishment to Ireland in 1388 by King Richard II.
The recorded history of the Belknap family commences with John Belknap, father of Sir Robert Belknap. It continues through Robertâs son, Sir Hamon Belknap (about 1380-1429), to Hamonâs son, Sir Henry Belknap (about 1420-1488), to Henryâs son, Sir Edward Belknap (about 1471-1521).
The surname Belknap, as carried through descendants of Sir Robert Belknap, appears to have died out with Sir Robertâs great grandson, Sir Edward. However, several other males surnamed Belknap, whose connections to Sir Robert are at present unknown, were contemporaries of Sir Robertâs family during the 15th and 16th Centuries.
The Belknap surname may have continued through one of these other contemporaneous Belknaps through the Beltoft family of Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire (âBeltoftâ appears to be an Anglo-Saxon etymological derivative of the Norman surname âBelknapâ), who assumed or resumed using the surname Belknap in the 1500s, not long before Abraham Belknap (formerly known as Beltoft) emigrated to Massachusetts in the 1630s.
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No it doesnât but all nobility would have had heraldry to distinguish themselves. Heraldry became well used by nobility and knights in England at least in the 13th century so I imagine bohemia wouldnât have been far behind.
As for heraldic design in game there would have to be set shapes and patterns used in design.
Having your own crestâŠthat would be just amazing. Right before you lay siege to an enemy castle you look back at your army; you see archers, knights, bannermen all bearing your crest.
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the story doesnât really make room for you to have your own crest. youâre not nobility, youâre a blacksmith. you can only have a crest if you are knighted by one of the nobles, after which you will wear his crest, not the other way around.
i donât like this, it sets a bad precedent. if this goes in, what other unrealistic, a-historical features will be allowed.
i say go realistic and authentic all the way. maybe some small things cannot be helped, but heraldry and family crests is too big a deal.
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I would love to add my own familyâs coat of arms or something similar to my gaming clansâs logo but a bit more refined for 15th Century life.
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I agree with 213 to an extent, most family coats of arm/crestsâ are not true ones as mant where made up in the 1800âs during the wave of romantacised and highly inacurate Medieval revival that swept Victorian England.
In fact my re-enactment group discussed this over the weekend, the Voctorians have a lot to answer for in regards to the trashing and warping of societys view on what Medieval life was really like.
So sadly not many of us would have a âproper crestâ as we donât come from noble stock, but non the less I can see why some may fond this a little attractive, but mostly I feel itâs just taky beyond belife. Like everything that is psuedo Medieval (fake family coats of arms created from over enthusiastic Voctorians, which my family crest us, especially).
213 a Blacksmit would nto have a crest at all, heâs not of noble blood.
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IF this feature was to be added I certainly would not be using my familyâs made up coat of arms, Iâd be using the Stafford Knot and or The Rapmant Swan of Lord Buckingham.
As 213 and myslef said, Iâd rather gor for realism than a tacky gimmick, Iâd rather see the Lords arms and coulours flying behind my charater after all I would be fighting for them.
I would also hope we could wear a Gamabason/Livery Coat of the same (pardon me if I have spelt that wrong), I know we had them in England and I am sure I saw some soilders wearing them in one of the trailers so I pressume it was the same in Europ.
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This totally needs to be added into the game, knights would have been identified by their coat of arms on the battlefield and their crested helmets or even their plumes like the knights of Bohemia with peacock feathers⊠My avatar is my family coat of arms too and I managed to mod mount and blade (100years war version) so that my character had his coat of arms on his shield horse and surcoat looked ace with all my troops wearing it on the battle field!
Well the banners are hand-stitched, the shields hand-painted so you could have tiny variations of the crest you have on your person but that doesnât seem worth the effort. You could choose the Lord you fight for at some point in the story and thereby choose what crest you will be wearing. Or if the player does at some point marry well there is room for a family crest. But I rather have a crest with elements from the region according to the players choices than a custom Coat-of-arms-creation-tool. However we know that not much of this could happen in Act one.
The main character is a blacksmithâs son which means he has no right to bear family coat-of-arms, to be more precise he has no coat-of-arms. There will be some nobles in the game with their own respective crests and banners. Luckily we know how these coat-of-arms looked so we can arm our noble NPCs with historically correct colors and sigils. So obviously you can get hands on equipmnet bearing these coat-of-arms.
As for your own coat-of-arms I will say that the game will be moddable so at least there will be always this option. 
Generally we like this idea, but it does not make much sense in the story of Act I.
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I know that for a blacksmithâs son it is almost impossible to become noble. So, mod for act 1 that allow you this- will be legendary! as fictional as it sounds.
Or if one of the 2 other acts you can start as a low level noble and climb your way to the fame and glory.
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Coat of Arms would be a good feature to have in the game. Other games like War of the Roses, Crusader Kings II, and others have the ability to use or create your own Coat of Arms. A few years back I went to a website to search for the family coat of arms and came up with the one on my Avatar. Not long afterwards I did more research into the Coat of Arms and how one obtains one. I found out that the Coat of Arms can only be passed down from a father to a firstborn son. So truthfully there really isnt a family coat of arms. Many of the website you go to that sell you a family coat of arms just find a coat of arms from someone in the past that had the same or similar last name and then they call it as a family coat of arms so they can make money off of it. Each person has their own specific coat of arms made for them with each piece and color added according to their character and their accomplishments. There are many places that hold records of coat of arms. They charge a lot of money as coat of arms are still being used in some cases. There is a specific design pattern that must be made when creating a authentic coat of arms. I have made my authentic coat of arm, but I am gonna be waiting some time before I get it recorded into records. Even in the United States to record a coat of arms costs several hundreds of dollars to a thousand or two depending on where you go to record it and if you created it yourself or someone else create it for you. Even though a coat of arms that you create may not be on records the artists that create them still have the ability to have legal standing sometimes more so than those on record because of copyright laws in the United States.
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read warhorseâs response. please use paragraphs. thanks you.
anyway, i agree with some of the other posts above. itâs a tacky, gimmicky vain kind of feature. people wanting their englsh family coat of arms in this game is justâŠi donât know what to say.
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I can imagine people running around Bohemia with Che Guevara on their shield ⊠or vagina. And posting screenshots everywhere. We all know how âfunnyâ people can be. So i hope this feature will never become implemented. At least not in vanilla.
For Act II, just give people some premade stuff to choose from, or made a simple editor with elements which players can put together to make their âownâ crest.
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Itâs one thing to become legally noble and another to be recognized by others especially other nobles. In some cases (very generally) titles are for sale but even after purchasing a title today those nobles with there family trees reaching to Charlemagne (fake or not, not relevant) probably wouldnât accept you among them. Today the laws for what names you can use are very different, within Austria using a noble name (officially) is not legal. Germany treats the âvonâ part or what ever as part common names. Seems that in the USA you get through with all kinds of names I donât know how this is practically handled but I doubt any body takes it seriously if decide to use a noble name at the very least nobles.
What I am trying to get at is that doubting someone else is ancestry and overplaying there own is a core part of nobility. While some rising within the system is possible you canât truly âupgradeâ your ancestry. Of course you can forge your family tree or actually suddenly discover real noble ancestors (not much of a difference) but making the other nobles believe that story is an other challenge. In any case you wonât make up a new individual crest because elements from your or your spouses supposed ancestors Coat of arms (or that of your Lord) signify that you arenât just the son of a blacksmith.
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