I think it might if it handles realistic fantasy well.
Umm uhh “realistic fantasy”? Go ahead and explain what you mean by the combination of these terms. I’m curious and eager to know what you mean by this.
Well considering most of the backers I have seen are all Elder Scrolls fans I would say it stands a very solid chance of competing.
One must always consider however that TES has been around since 1994 and has a huge fan base already established.
Personally from my experiences with the alpha so far, Bethesda is going to have to step up there game allot before I purchase another TES title.
They’re different genres, don’t you think so?
They both are open world RPGs the main thing separating them is Fantasy v.s. realism.
Most gaming sites and media sources have already generalized them both as RPGs, and commonly use skyrim to describe what KC:D is.
Categorizing games and movies is hard because of the many sub-genres out there.
most gaming sites have no clue about what they are writing about.
Skyrim was a rather generic fantasy where you could play a number of races and both sexes,… and pretty much do what you want.
This one is about one specific person during a specific historical period. Even with the Devs calling this open world, and with many side quests, it will still be much more focused on that specific story.
So even without the historical/fantasy division we are still talking two very different games.
Agreed, however they are still categorized as RPGs.
Before the sub-genre JRPG and the classification of turn based RPG became popular (as descriptive terms, not the popularity of the titles) all games with RPG elements (usual classified purely for having a leveling system) were lumped into the base RPG Genre.
This same lumping of genre will continue until a more well defined classification is made.
In my eyes KC:D needs a classification unique to itself because there truly it nothing like it to compare it too.
Now tying into the original topic, this lumping and misinformed classification has potential to be beneficial by bringing people in based on layman’s understanding of what KC:D is, and make it easier to compete with titles of a similar sub-genre.
People think of the witcher games as realistic fantasy, kingdome come is just taking that to a whole new level of realism
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Could you explain what you mean by that? You mean, something like ARMA? It’s still called a first-person shooter, even though it’s much closer to simulation than typical first-person shooters are.
@DAVIDGUITAR21 then those people seem to be a bit ignorant. The whole Witcher universe is based on mythology, so it’s fantasy. It’s not like the Witcher’s world is a magic place where mana is the source of all energy and if mana would cease then the whole world wouldn’t exist. I don’t know much about the Witcher universe, but usually this kind of lore is placed at the very beginning of a game and I didn’t see any evidence on this. If there is such evidence however, then lecture me via PM.
I still don’t see why you came up with the “realistic fantasy” in conjunction with Kingdom Come Deliverance. There’s no fantasy involved (although people will tell tales like they even do nowadays). Alchemy is boosting your abilities but only because of the subjective perception or known effects. Of course the game needs to be playable, which is why the whole game can’t be completely realistic (except someone mods it that way) but that’s more a discussion about playability rather than fantasy.
Let’s take some other game: Harvest Moon. Is this game series realistic or fantasy or both?
You misunderstand. Yes, it’s a fantasy, but the way the world works, the way its inhabitants behave make it seem realistic. Much more realistic than in many movies, where people do not swear, where there is clear divide between good and evil, etc. It’s the same story with Game of Thrones - it’s another fantasy, but it’s done in a fashion that makes it convincing, despite being fantasy. If I had to compare it to something somewhat historical then The Borgias (at least to what little I’ve seen of it) are the closest that comes to my mind.
The witcher games are mature fantasy, kingdom come will be maturely realistic game
Yeah that’s what @McWonderBeast kind of refers to. It’s not a typical RPG, because it doesn’t rely on mana or magic(k) or any other fantasy matter. Every other RPG that I know of is using that kind of additional unnatural force, but call it natural in their own world.
Warhorse Studios has some plans if KCD will be a success and they all rely on real historic events. That means they might even create their own definition for a game category (historic realistic RPGs) just like Telltale Games created their own style of adventures, that is more like moral interactive stories rather than point and click mechanics paired with puzzle-solving.
Similar to Arma yes. there are many aspects of KC:D that make some want to lean towards defining it as a simulator.
Its dedication to realism both in historical accuracy and real world location (the use of satellite height maps to create the world to realistic scale) are qualities that make it lean toward simulators.
Unlike a simulator (or even FPSs) you play a specific role, experience a specific story or set chronological events and scenarios to create a narrative, lending to the RPG genre.
Its open world yet not quite a sandbox.
Its hard to elaborate on exactly what i mean.
the game defies categorization. a game like this has never been done before
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Yeah that’s what @McWonderBeast kind of refers to. It’s not a typical RPG, because it doesn’t rely on mana or magic(k) or any other fantasy matter. Every other RPG that I know of is using that kind of additional unnatural force, but call it natural in their own world.[/quote]
What you’re talking about is called setting and it doesn’t matter if an RPG uses mana or magic in its system, because setting does not define game as an RPG in classification.
There were many good RPG games it can be compared with. There are also quite a few FPP games with melee combat it can be compared to (and most of them are set in quasi-medieval settings). I doubt we will run out of material to compare and categorize this game. If you look at features of the Kickstarter campaign you should see in which category it’ll be placed.
Depends on what you mean. In terms of quality, well that is, of course, subjective, though many on this server do seem to think that it will be better. It certainly looks better graphically, and the combat seems to be a lot better, at the very least. In terms of sales though, no, not a chance. I highly doubt that it will even come close to sell as much as Skyrim did.
in popularity? not a chance
current combat system is too damn hardcore and difficult to be enjoyed by many.
It will hopefully be a mega success
Are two different type of games.
I love The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, but yes, this game can compete with The Elder Scrolls.
The combat system is awesome and in general looks great!