Realism, How far should it be taken

win state - an exclusive and clearly desired end state of a game or in this context a gamified content (the romance) unfortunatelly stripped of many nuances of its real world counterpart and reduced to race for sex-scene, no matter how subtle (which, fortunately, the Bioware sex scenes are). The sex scene is the end, it’s the goal. There’s pretty much nothing else to it. And the mechanics of this subgame are often really really weird. They try to tackle very complex thing which is far from being zero-sum game, by turning it into one (ffs) with just some bar filling busywork or microtycoon. Take Dragon Age for example. You have to fill some friendship bar by giving NPC gift you find and if you are good enough at that horrible “relationship simulator” you get the option hook up with the given NPC.
That is what I mean. Sure there are many forms of that and some are better than others but all fail horribly as long as it’s trying to put an equal sign between human relationship and game which is to be played tactically or hard worked through manually and won.

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I agree he should have eaten it but he could have gone back later. Moose are extremely territorial and kill more people than any other animal in north America its likely it wouldn’t have backed down if he sat there quietly they will attack un provoked and it probably heard the snow mobile from far away. They are so territorial they will run out on roads and attack cars lol when my brothers went hiking during the summer the park ranger warned them that a young bull moose was attacking cars on the road they do this very often.

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Its always sad to watch life be extinguished especially when it had no value in it.

the first scenario was life or death, and it was hunter v.s. prey.

the dude on the snow-mobile was impatient and in the wrong. but ounce provoked I too would have killed the moose, I just wouldn’t have provoked it wait it out or turn around.

and seconds who the hell takes a 9mm pistol as defence out against a moose because he took what 5 shots to kill it , if the thing actually went at him he wouldnt stand a chance .
if you’re going to do it at least do it properly and take a high powered rifle or a L134A1

A lot of hunters will take like a 357 something powerful like that. There is a lot of stories of those dropping charging grizzlies. The 9 mil could have been if hes in an area with wolves. They are starting to come back in the northern states of America and are extremely agressive.

Im sure they ate the bear strange as it seems a lot of bear hunters actually ate the bear and they make many uses from there pelts.

wasn’t debating that, the bear situation was justified IMO. and until your post updated about how territorial moose are I had forgotten how hardcore assholes moose really are.

wolves hardly ever attack humans though . even if a pack did attack a glock would be no use they would be too quick to hit effectively.

personally id take the trusty L115A3 rifle its an 8.59mm round . anything below a 1000m and you have to be pretty shit to miss . cracking weapon would have no issue taking a bear down with one shot

Yeah they are fucking crazy some cop shot a moose in a town near where i live and people had a fucking candle lit dinner for the moose. It had already destroyed property and was agressive.

The newer generations are becoming much more agressive in places like montana because they have no fear of humans and their population is starting to grow rapidly. But moose fucking moose are the devil. Off topic but a moose actually lead police to an illegal pot farm.

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still wouldnt take a glock but ill take a good guess that the guy on the snow mobile is just some dick head that likes to feel cool with a glock on his waist rather than taking something more suited for the job

There a lot of hunting in the U.K?

no you’re only allowed to hunt on your own private land . although it does happen my nan actually crashed into a deer that ran into the road because he was being chased by a load of posh blokes on horses with rifles but it is illegal.

not alot other than deer really.
no point hunting squirrels

I can’t be 100% certain, but the first shot looked like a clear warning shot, meant to miss. Either that or he was aiming for the thing’s ass (which would be… ummm… I don’t know a word for that level of stupid :slight_smile: ). In either case, he sure as hell didn’t wait very long to deliver the following 4 :expressionless:

I can empathize with the guy’s fear (I’ve already said I’m a “lightweight” and I’d prolly piss myself if I got kicked by a moose), but his decision making processes are all kinds of messed up. I’m on the wagon that that situation could have easily gone down with nobody hurt. The guy’s a dick and a dumbass… but not explicitly for shooting the moose. :wink:

Well i have all sorts of dangerous animals in my state bear, mountain lions, moose. The only deadly creature ive ever come face to face with is a rattle snake i have been closer than 3 feet to them more than once luckily they never bit me but when you when you hear the rattle and see it rearing back you get pretty terrified.

Moose are incredibly territorial and would have charged him regardless they kill more people in north America then any other animal. Had the guy turned around it could had charged him or the guy behind him. When he shot it you could clearly see it coming in for a second charge moose are not deer or elk they are very very dangerous animals.

nobody was hurt. the moose isn’t a somebody, it’s just a wild animal.

I haven’t played ME3 so I cannot judge that but if you described that correctly it’s actually one of the good approaches to the matter.

I am back at my basic point that relationship isn’t a zero-sum winnable game. It’s good for Barney Stinson chick hunting but that is an intentional caricature in itself.

Again, I have no problem with sex scenes, I don’t even have problem with efforts of gamifying relationship. What I have problem with is reduction of such a complex ever-unstable thing as relationship, which require huge amounts of subtlety, into a system with “Yay! You won the relationship with this person! Here, have this reward.” The reward being a sex scene usually.

And yes these clumsy attemps, for me, are still even better than throwing sex scenes into game just for the sake of it without giving any proper context and trying to be all serious about it (Metro Last Light for example, which is otherwise fantastic game)

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Uh, I’ll bet the guy was hurtin’ a bit after that kick :wink:

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That is why I always take a pistol to the woods. Not bears so much in the Czech Republic, but wild boar, stray dogs and horny male deer. Actually this very summer a guy shot an attacking dog with his 9mil pistol on a spot in the mountains (parking lot at the beginning of a hiking trail) I went just week before.

Who the hell takes a high powered rifle just for a walk/ride in the woods? I carry my 9 mil because I prefer 14+1 on tap and 16 on reload in case I need it with the gun being light enough that I don’t really know I have it. Sure, having a .44 revolver would be probably a better option (and I know a guy who takes it to woods casually), but that is too heavy for me and too cumbersome to reload.

But more importantly, the only way that will 100% stop a raging animal is hitting the central nervous system in the area of neck or higher. Then it doesn’t matter whether it is 9mil, 44 or L115A3.

I am not a hunter myself but I know personally a group of 5 guys who went hunting and were caught off guard by raging wild boar in a moment when the group was tightly together, just walking and speaking. I guarantee you that they would gladly change their hunting rifles for 9 mil in that moment. Unfortunately one got shot to leg before the beast was successfully put down.

You being British, you probably meant your plastic replica of L115A3 to use it as a club and beat the moose to death…?

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no way would i trust a 9mm against a bear or any other large animal , he was by no means taking a casual stroll in the woods . he was in dangerous territory with moose all over the place . if the moose actually went for him he would of lost

yea thats exactly what i meant mate

yea but at least take the thing home and eat it so there is some sort of purpose to it

He might not have been able to actually take it home. You need to buy tags and im not sure if you are allowed to take animals that attack you. But im almost positive some wolves or cougar or bear had a nice meal.

He also could have been very far back country. So far back that dragging a 700lb dead moose back with you would be difficult if not impossible even with the aid of a snow mobile.

Lol

Yeah they are a huge problem in America their population has exploded and they can get fucking huge as hell.

Well bears are very scared of noise so just firing near it could scare it off. Most large animals are scared of noise but not moose.