Request for Dev attention

I like the game. But there are things you mandate that runs counter to player agency.

Please remove the forced auto-center when softlocked. I do not care if I cannot attack during soft-lock, I just want full FLUID control.

Please add a perk trigger on weapon hit, and one on weapon swing.

Please reenable 3rd person camera. There is a dude that will charge for his mod to get a 3rd person camera.

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Sounds easy when you put it like that.

Well, it IS easy… since the engine has these things available at default. The specifically removed 3rd person camera. And they specifically force a camera centering on softlock.

All they have to do is simply… not do that.

You know, that they don’t wanna to care about it. They just want it. :relieved:

There will be many things that will be changed and added to the game. Combat, perks, graphics, improved fps. They added a save and exit feature and made lockpicking easy. 3rd person has been talked about in this forums for years now. It won’t be added by devs, but this modder you speak of will be the answer to your problem.

its not as easy as it might seem to add (functioning) 3rd person camera
besides that the developer wants a first person rpg
how would the camera react when you enter buildings etc?

:pensive: this is how it is. It’s a curse.

“it is not so easy as it might seem to add (functioning) 3rd person camera…” This is true, but it will be a damned sight easier if they reenable the console command. Let us the modding community find ways around the issue rather than barring us for no real reason.

There is a dude who has 3rd person working already

but he says he will charge for the please of playing the game in 3rd person. If and when he decides to release this mod. That is how much people want 3rd person camera, because we both know some will pay this dude for something the devs can just simply stop blocking.

This guy must be sued. He’s selling 3rd person mod, lol. I’m saddened, that he’s russian.

there will be many other modders that will do this for free so no chance for this dude

Also, it’s sad, that many people don’t wanna feel immersion, that the game gives you with first person. :cry:

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Yea. Problem is that WE NEED THAT CONSOLE COMMAND! or we need to hope a coder hacks the game. Very few modders are coders. We mostly fiddle around with settings in different ways. Skyrim has the biggest modding community, and active coders in that community can be counted on your fingers.

So stop acting like everthing will be dandy because of modding.

So I repeat “dude”, without enabling the console command, it will take a very long time before we get this mod. What is worse is that such work-around would likely make the game less stable. So stop acting like mods can solve everything.

@sirius
Ah, this old falsehood.

Alright. The most immersive game ever sold is Dead Space. The reason is that all UI elements is presented within the game world instead of 2D elements that does wonders in reminding your brain that the 3D depths is just an illusion. 3rd person allows for so many thing that support immersion, that the detriment of looking at your avatars back is hardly worth it.

What is more, if you tilt your head to the side, baro-receptors remind your brain what direction up is. This does not come in effect in first person. Then you have all these camera jolting that tries to sell the “immersion”. Since you have NO other senses to guide you, it is pretty much analogous to sitting in a washingmachine.

Finally, 3rd person allows for interaction with the game world, which sells the reality of the world to the player.

No, First person is NOT defined by immersion. All it does better than 3rd person is IMMEDIACY. Nothing else. This first-person immersion is a false narrative that just wont die.

Why do you want 3rd person camera so bad?
I feel more immersion with first person

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Because I feel less immersed with first person.

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Ok, seems legit
I hope for you that there will be a good workaround, I doubt the developer will do something

I doubt it too. And I am sort of sick of games that refuse to allow player to customize the game to their preferences.
I am certain that 3rd person will arrive. But it is a manufactured waiting period. Which hurts, since they sold me on this game because of modding support.

It was nice the way they included all the xml files. But then why did they actively remove console commands? I just dont get it? What is the logical reasoning behind it?`That it does not work? who cares, modders fix shit that does not work. But we need things to fix in the first place.

well they will add modding support, its not there yet
Maybe its not as bad as it seems and Warhorse will release their tools etc. they said so a while ago
I’m not expert when it comes to modding but since they said it from the beginning that they will support it I’m very curious how it turns out