Strength and agility drop?

My stats are as follows…

Strength is 18 in player menu (left)
Strength is 15 on character screen (right)
Agility is 12 in player menu
Agility is 10 on character screen
Speed is 28 in player menu
Speed is 27 on character screen

The stats mentioned on the character screen on the right are red. I have no negative buffs, full energy, full nourishment, full health, and no equipment on at the moment. Can someone explain what is causing my drop in stats?

Any help would be appreciated!

You must have taken a perk that gave you negative stats…

There are a lot of perks in the game that buff up certain attributes while negatively affecting others.

Brute is an example, you get strength buff but lose Charisma. Ken is another… You lose like -2 strength but get +2 charisma. They all show the debuffs as -1 or -2 in red next tot he stat.

No stats on that affect other stats…
I have no debuffs…

Its from your perks. Post all your perks. If its not from perks and you don’t ahve anytthing listed in your buff tab, could be a bug.

I see that… I need to see your perks though… You took a perk that has reduced your attribute.

Tell me all your perks and show me your Buff tabs.

Tell me all your perks, including the ones from the main level category.

You have taken a perk that gave you negative attributes because there are plenty and if not, you could be hungover, or this could be a bug.

Chill I am cropping these things so I can upload

jail also give you negative numbers for some time

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No debuffs

Gotta admit that is weird – it looks like a bug though.

Usually in that menu when that happens you have a negative buff effect. Could be drunk, could be hung over, could have an injury, or you took a perk like Ken and it gave you a -2 strength modifier.

Only perks that affect other perks to my knowledge are in main. Don’t have any… also have nothing going on and no debuffs…

Try a save a reload. Sometimes it fixes these silly little things.

I have…

there is a perk that is brute strength or something similar that gives -2 charisma and others like that you should check that