The forum controversy

Problem being, it was more “partly” biased against those who are loving the game despite the current state of it.

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Sure. It’s not all your fault. But I have been complaining some about the game as well, always in a decent tone, with a virtual smile towards everyone. But there is a tendency to be flamed and called all sorts of nasty things told to get out and so on.

So yes, blame lies on both side of the fence. But people have the right to be angry and justly so. And even more so when their frustrations a met with name calling and dismissal of their issues.

Then I have come of wrong, I think you refer to the ps4 folk i mentioned. What I wanted to say and also think I did was, that some people, since we are all different are happy regardless of bad fps and bugs, but that its not the same for everyone. I actually like the idea of the game as well, but for me there are far to many problems for it to be enjoyable. And I HOPE it get fixed.

Well, from my perspective, defenders are actually defending the game from those that want it to fail and want to crucify warhorse.

We want more games like this, and i think , in spite of the rough past few weeks, this could be the beginning of a new sub genre.

The way i see it, if a lazy reviewer would come to the forums to review this game and all they saw was negative reviews, they would also write a negative review. Reporters love controversy and those that love the game have just as much right to defend it as those that wish to tear it down

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I am not disagreeing with ALL people who defend the game. Not at all. I am referring to people who aggressively denies the issues that exists with the game. Which are quite a few. Both aggressive defenders and issues. :yum: And neither that, nor aggressive bashers that just spew and cuss is contributing to a decent dialog. But still though, I have some understanding for the anger people experience.

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Gotcha. And you’re not alone,there.

I think some people speak before they think

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The only real problem comes in generalizing and stereotyping both sides as either one or the other.

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I think you wrote a good artikel / text. It is a wouderful Game and if i can‘t talk about the difficultys and bugs that apear in the game after 60-80 hours here in the Forum them it should be closed. In is a Forum not a advertisment board to sell KD:C. All users bought the game already and problems and complains won‘t disapear by discussing them but it helps if you see that you are not the only one. All the tips, workaraunds and time that the users invest in the Forum is a good thing but complaing about bugs is a releave too. I find this Forum is ahelpful and good thing the war it is.
Sorry for my bad english but i hope it is clean what i mean.

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No problem I’ll explain :slight_smile: . I mean by “finalized” a product that reach it’s goal. For an entertaining product like this one, it will be to entertain players.

In my opinion this product is not finalized, it has many problems and after finishing it I am not entirely satisfied. Even if the game doen’t completely fail in it’s entertaining goal (this game has good moments too) it was many time a really frustrating experience.

This is mostly due to some really big issues (Smaller ones are not game breaking so they are not a big deal), and content cut. After the first part I really feel that the developpment was rushed, most of quest bugs I encountered are in the second part of the game and the story ends with some sort of cliffhanger that put player frustration to the top, particularly after playing hours and hours and achieving some really painful quests.

I agree with lordamaury. After pribyslavitz (spelling? ) the story feels more and more flat and rushed. Not to mention the technical side (bugs etc). They should stay true to initial plan of releasing 3 separate acts. Merging act 1 and 2 was too much for them and it shows, unfortunately. Cose bugs can be patched, performance issues as well. Storywritting, quest construction and the like will not be fixed. And in my opinion there is a huge quality gap between first and second part of KC-D in those areas. Hopefully act 3 will get enough development time to be more polished and at the very least will have the quality of the first act.

Thx both of you for clarifying. May not have the same assessment after I finish but still good feedback for WH.

lordmaury and Zoroaster, pls weigh in on other forum (link)

You’re right, major issues absolutely exist. Anyone who says that there are absolutely no issues is an idiot. That being said, there’s no use trying to take sides on the forum, people will keep arguing no matter what. All we can do is wait. This can either turn out really good or reveal itself to be corporate bullshit like someone above mentioned. Let’s give them the chance to see on what side of the fence they land.

Miscommunication is the reason people argue when there is no argument.

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It is what it is now, but honestly if you have not experienced any problems with the game at all then as far as I’m concerned you’re not even entitled to an opinion on the problems others are experiencing, I don’t know why you’d even comment, you cannot possibly understand their frustrations because you don’t have any.

Yes many games have day 1 patches, yes triple A games are not completely bug free, but this is on a whole other level of Not Even Remotely Ready For Release. Its great that some people are lucky enough to be in a position where they can’t grasp that, good for them.

If you disagree with that then you’re lucky its working so well for you, but I don’t care what you think of how badly its working for the rest of us.

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Just because someone is not experiencing the fustrations of what the other has, doesnt mean they can’t make an objective viewpoint on their opinion.

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There is no need for them to comment even if they don’t have anything useful to add in terms of bug fixing. They are just making excuses for the studio. Am here for a solution to my problem not an excuse for the studio.

I am not taking sides as such. This post was meant to point out that many people on the forums that ask people to leave, or to shut up, are actually just a big a part of the unrest and bad forum vibes. It is just, that many of those people are actually not realizing that they are part of the problem. My side in the matter is, yes I am disappointed and feel to a big degree betrayed by wh. But still you can keep a decent tone. That goes both for the people complaining and the people trying to defend the devs or the game.

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If someone is actually having issues with the game, no viewpoint other than a helpful advice or a viewpoint from the devs, is actually relevant. A counter argument from ignorance does nothing good for a frustrated consumer.

Arguing against problems not experienced first hand is pointless, and actually contributes to more bad vibes.

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Exactly!! This is what ppl are failing to understand.