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not from our end of the stick we wasnt :slight_smile: we did alot of good for them nations in the long run though

Or we all could pull our heads out of our asses and remember that we are all carbon based life forms hurling through the vacuum of space on a glorified rock and all our made up borders and “cultures” really don’t mean anything in the larger context of our evolution as a species.

Yeah totally Africa is doing swell. South African countries have some of the highest murder rates in the world despite being “modern”. Then central and norther Africa are complete shit holes. But hey Britain built some roads there right? Most of the islands in the Caribbean are not doing well and are third world countries. India is starting to crawl out of the poverty that Britain left it in.

Um, again, no you wouldnt have because we would have had our military plus all the gun owners. Despite the fact that Germany had the best military on the planet at the time, better then the UK and the US, we still would have beat you both combined. If you would have invaded the US, you would have failed miserably due to the fact that there would have been about 25 million hunters that would be waiting to meet you. The problem a standing army would have with 25 million snipers is that 25 million sniper is not 1 army of 25 million snipers, its 25 million armies of one. They dont have to wait for orders, they dont have to fear the wrath of superior officers, they are their own army. So, You would have been whittled down by snipers and skirmish groups until you would be forced to retreat.

Thats if they even got past the borders. Geographically the U.S would be one of the hardest places to invade.

It doesnt matter what YOU thought you were doing, what matters is what you actually did, and you killed, no murdered, millions of people for personal gain. We did it to so im not gonna say we are angels because we were in the wrong when we murdered thousands of native americans, and stole their land and killed all their food.

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We could but someone i wont name names keeps turning the conversations into USA sucks and Britain is the best.

Yes but you continue to defend the U.S. which continues to create opposition.

http://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/

Really this is just a patriotism argument, neither side is going to back down because we are all to stubborn to admit both our countries have done some really awful things lol. Brittan even more so because they have been around longer.

Yes and that is the issue.

Patriotism and similar mentalities is holding our species back.

I cant help it i have to much freedom in my blood.

The blood that will be spilled by another foolish human defending his cultural ignorances.

hahahaha get real . your supplies helped hugely i wont dismiss that but it wasnt as big of a factor as your making out , the reason we won the war was because of our planes and pilots and our sheer grit to go on fighting . i suggest you look into the african situation when you came in .
you was involved in the final major offensive . as a pincer attack to cut off their retreat , the commonwealth forces won in african near enough single handily and many historians will tell you . the americans got their arse handed to them on a plate when you first entered the war it took you a few defeats until you got up to speed with tactics .
battle of kasrine was part of the first major offensive the americans took part in which ended in a british guards regiment having to be redirected to break the encirclement you was in .

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Without the U.S supplies Britain would have surrendered.
[/quote] not true at all .

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Thats just why Germany bombed the living hell out of London
[/quote] fair statement , also a factor which won us the war as they were oringally bombing RAF bases and had us on the verge of defeat but the switch of targets gave the RAF tyhe breathing space to rebuild . and not a single american component rebuilt the planes :slight_smile: you provided much need food , weapons for the home guard . i wont underestimate the service we purchased from you but i wont allow you to over estimate it either .

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British forces fleeing across the English channel when France fell.
[/quote]well wasnt much point staying in france was their ?

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The red war plan would have never happend. It was never approved by congress or the president. Who at the time was Franklin Roosevelt who was practically best friends with Winston Church Hill. So you did not save our “arses”
[/quote] why would that be relevant Churchill wasnt prime minster at the time of war plan red . and it was approved by your secretary of war and navy and was edited on several occasions up until 1939 when you decided to stop the devoplemtn of further planning however you retained the plan .

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You claim the United States was worthless i the war
[/quote]NO i did not , never have

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choose a supreme commander of the western forces an American general was chosen
[/quote] one of the biggest angers of the british .

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The battle of the bulge when “Monty” and the British forces were fleeing from the Germans American troops held the line and Patton and the Third army came to relieve the besieged American forces.
[/quote]i think you need to do some research my friend , the battle of the bulge occured on an american section of the line and sent the AMERICANS running until 101 airborne . it was patton AND Montgomery that relieved the AMERICAN force TOGETHER .

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Oh and im sure it had nothing to due with the vast majority of the United States not wanting to get involved with Syria. Not to mention the protests that occurred in Washington D.C
[/quote] congressed had already approved . the day after we said no you stepped down .

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Lol Britain will go down in history as the empire that murdered over 20 million people invaded hundreds of countries and enslaved countless more. The U.K didn’t create jack shit look at almost all the countries that were conquered by it complete shit holes. India is doing better but thats no thanks to Britain. Britain didn’t build Europe. Britain didn’t build Asia. And Britain certainly didn’t build the United States with the exception of the 13 colonies.
[/quote] we established the infrastructure of the nations and created the nations when we arrived they were basically naked in mud huts . when we left they had roads ,cities , rail ways , schools , hospitals etc

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Actually Mandarin is the most spoke language in the world.
[/quote] never said it wasnt you misunderstood me . what i meant english is the common language of the planet not the most spoken but the common . what i mean by this is its used in trade and diplomacy as its normally the language both sides can speak . for example most games and films are made in english not mandarin.

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Please explain how?
[/quote] because we are one of the oldest nations on the planet we have been involved in every major war to take place since we have existed. our empire has created nations across the globe and left them with an infrastructure to grow into what they choose too as they were no more than tribes when we arrived , best example being india .

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20 million people.
[/quote] back that up please .

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America never had an empire but America could have taken all of south America over and pretty most of the Pacific islands.
[/quote] could , should but you did not .

Well not really patriotism, its just humans instinct to hate whats different that is really holding up social progression. Then you get people like Martin Luther King Jr. and then we can really get somewhere, the only problem is is that someone is always going to disagree with them to the point that they are afraid their ideology is in danger, and they will just pop them in the head.

the USA has one of the biggest murder rates on the planet and has 30% of its population in poverty and Detroit is a shit hole .


Actually the British purposely stalled progression in their “colonized” countries in an attempt to keep them relying on the British for protection and industry.

i dont think Britain is the best , we was once upon a time but not anymore , far from it . but you have an attitude of disrespect towards my nation as if you saved us from utter destruction which is factually wrong on every level . you’re a victim of hollywood . where it makes out the USA was the only nation in WW2 and misses the part where without the UK you couldnt of invaded and supplied troops in europe as you did . and without you we wouldnt have won in the time we did and eaten as well as we did . it was a ALLIED effort not a US one . you played your part in keeping freedom and i refuse to big your part up any more than i would big any other of the nations parts up as all were equally as important to the war effort

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