#9328

Well president is mostly just ceremonial post with very limited powers.

As short as possible: after elections to chamber of deputies (congress) the president proposes a new prime minister who has a short timeframe to get approved by the chamber of deputies. Typically the president proposes the chair of party that has won the elections. We have multiple parties in parliament, not just two like you, and hardly ever any gets above 25% votes, so it is up to the proposed prime minister to secure backing from other parties to get at least 50%+1 votes in the parliament and get into the office.

Basically, we vote in MPs, and they vote in the prime minister (and may also vote him down).

#9329

They go to plan be and vote it in as regulation in which case it becomes EU law and bypass the national parliment altogether .

Basically the choices are . Enforce the gun laws in whatever way you want but they must meet the key points or get fined a shit ton and they will enforce the law on you anyway

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:9324, topic:21032”]
A question for both you and @TheDivineInfidel, who elects your national leader, the people or the parliament
[/quote] same as the U.S. . A party elects a leader we vote for that party and that leader .

#9330

Do you vote in the president ? Your system sounds very undemocratic to me

#9331

This is not the case in the UK , infact are "multicultural " areas tend to be covered with even more police .

He is talking out of his arse . There is in Paris yes but not in London . Or anywhere in the UK for that matter .

Are issues here in terms of Islam , is back street preaching . It’s what goes on behind closed doors that’s the problem

#9332

Not really.

Yes.

How is that undemocratic? How is the process of electing British PM different?

#9333

(warhorse twitter feed)
translation: “How to convince people to give you their money for your (crazy) ideas.”

Are they trying to tell us something?

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#9334

Well, we’ve cleared it out that I’d probably get shot if I fuck around, but otherwise I am not worried.

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#9335

So its not like the U.S then at all. We vote for every elected official who is in power, no matter what branch.

#9336

There is actually quite a bit more than just Democrats and Republicans, the issue is unless you are in either of those parties you will not get anywhere in politics. So libertarians like Rand Paul and Ron Paul had to run as Republicans, other wise they wouldn’t really be running at all.

Same deal for the Democrats, they have people in their party who aren’t really Democrats, but they have to join the party just to get anywhere, its a bad system.

#9337

The Czech constitution was influenced by the following models:

  • 1867 Austrian constitution in the sphere of civil rights,
  • 1787 constitution of the USA in the sphere of judiciary and checks and balances,
  • 1875 French constitution in the sphere of the powers of the president and the parliament,
  • Swiss constitution in the sphere of the powers of the government.
#9338

I was referring to the way the EU system worked not the Czech system. :smile: Still i would say your system sounds a lot different than ours.

#9339

@snejdarek @TheDivineInfidel

I just found the most historically accurate documentary on the American revolution. :sunglasses:

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#9340

Donald trump could get banned from the UK :slight_smile: a number of MP’s were calling for it and now a petition for it has gone over 100,000 meaning it has to be debated in parliment .

The petition is going 4 signatures every second

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#9341

That would be awkward if he ended up as president. :smile:

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#9342

I don’t think the people pulling the strings will allow him into power .

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#9343

Conspiracy theorist much? :stuck_out_tongue:

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#9344

I would like to know what you meant by this though. Are you coming around to my way of thinking? :wink:

#9345

not so much some dark conspiracy . but more in terms of the media will simply make him out as the next hitler , they will sway public opinion massively against him .

it works like a charm every time

#9346

no different than what happened in russia after the fall of the soviet union . the oligarchs decide who wins the elections . they put there money and TV channels behind their perfect "yes man " and get him into office .

i read a very good book on this called "once upon a time in russia " it follows the story of boris berezovsky and later on in the book Alexander Litvinenko , boris owned a large potion ORT which was then the russian version of the BBC . he was instrumental in keeping president yeltsin in power .

at the time in russia it was going badly and people started to turn their support back to the communists , boris and his other oligarch friends managed to swing to vote back round and win yeltsin his last term in power against the odds , then he also hand picked and secured in power .,…you guessed it Vladimir putin . who they believed would be the perfect "yes man " who would do as the oligarchs told him .

they misjudged putin , who turned on all the oligarchs the moment he got in power , and completely rid the political world of them , one of the reasons putin is so well liked is because of this , he rid the russian system of huge amounts of corruption . boris and putin , went from trusted partners to enemies , boris was ran out of the country along with his parter and head of security alexander litvinenko … … he was poisoned by the russian KGB in london
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenkohttps

and boris ? he was found dead in his bathroom a few years later in an apparent suicide but his family believe putin had him killed …loose ends tied up :slight_smile:

its a great book i recommend you read it , its your sort of book

and i would imagine a similar situation exists to a degree (slightly less assassinations ) in the US

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#9347

284,000 !

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