yea im sure the Czechs will be leading the charge against russia
ultimately they have to come to some sort of deal with the separatists . not with russia.
my point is that we should not punch someone then cry assault when they punch back , because now we are in a situation which is tough to get out of without looking weak which we cant do
You could argue that Iraq and Afghanistan was justified. Saddam murdered over a million people and the Taliban were running Afghanistan. Vietnam how ever was not an invasion. The south Vietnamese government asked for U.S aid and we were happy to help.
Well as you stated earlier Russia can beat North America and Europe in a war no matter where it happens so why don’
t you fly the Russian flag from your home.
You mean let Russia steam role Ukraine? We both know it ill only end in Ukraine getting shit on.
I never said Russia could beat us anywhere I said they could beat us in Ukraine . I also said they could have a very good go at land grabbing Alaska . Which they could with special forces .
Haha no I do not fly a Russian flag any where , I do not support Russia’s actions one bit . But no sane person can deny we have played a huge part in causing this .
No you don’t let Ukraine get steam rolled you have a very black and white view of the conflict , Russia doesn’t want to own Ukraine . They want the same thing we want which is a government in Ukraine. That supports their ideals and we want one that supports ours , if you can’t see that then … Jesus Christ .
I hope you are referring to the Crimea and Donbas Russia led anti-Ukrainian campaign and not to the citizens demonstrating against their government and subsequent move of the elected Ukrainian parliament to remove their president from power.
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Nah they couldn’t. Some special forces vs the garrison of around 20,000 and close to a million armed civilians. And remember supply. We could supply Alaska fairly easily but it would be a almost impossible for them to supply an invasion force. We have a highway going into Alaska they would have to send ships across the bering strait and our navy is superior to theirs. As for landing supply planes. Well there is an airport in Alaska how ever if it was destroyed which it could be easily good luck getting supplies there.
And besides they have no supply depots anywhere near Alaska and if they started to build them up near the Bering strait we would fortify Alaska more heavily.
Plus they would be in range of all our missiles and bombers. So if Russia really wanted Alaska they would pretty much have to take the lower 48 too.
Plus they would face a huge insurgency from the local populace. Just ask Japan how well invading Alaska worked for them in world war 2.
"You cannon invade the U.S there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"
Although that was a misquote its still true. If the Britain were to be invaded you would have no way of fighting back if your military was defeated.
Alyaska? Smoke this -
We want back our California. San Francisco at least. Lol :о)
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You can have San Francisco 
You will be fined for not recycling there and you can legally walk around naked. But i would be careful theres talking intelligent apes living in the Redwoods just out side the city. They will throw spears at you if you get too close
You guys complain about working in a bakery, i shovel horse shit for a living 
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Well happy St. Patricks day everyone. Cant wait to see how many drunks will be wrecked off the side of the highway on my way home 
see , their are two massive differences between what has happened in crimiea and eastern ukraine to what has happened in kiev . which is what im trying to explain to you , this conflict is not black and white like you seem to believe.
under international law it is illegal to forcefully remove an elected government , im not to sure if it is only elected or if it would include governments such as president assads ,
however you have a right to self determination . meaning it is legal for a region to seek independence with a referendum and to defend the result of the referendum with force .
so while i do not agree with what putin has done , he has acted within international law so legally speaking he has more legs to stand on than we do by supporting the revolution in Kiev .
its a very very complicated conflict and i do not agree with your attitude of lets go to war with russia over it. its an issue which will take many many years to mend and steam rolling in is not the answer however i agree we cant allow russia to invade ukraine any more than they already have so we need to be firm but also listen to the people of eastern ukraine who didnt agree with the revolution .
this is why i feel we have caused alot of the issue , because the EU/west new damn well how this would split ukraine yet they followed through with it
How exactly is it illegal under international law for the Ukrainian Parliament to impeach Yanukowich?
Where exactly did a referendum take place before arrival of Russian forces?
i cant be bothered to get into this whole argument again but what i will say , is their is no highway leading to alsaka is basically a high road , check google maps and look at the road on street view ,
secondly special forces are trained to fight against a much larger force and win , also its 20,000 however most are air force personnel ,
and the combat troops take time to mobilise . you demonstrated to me before you have a very basic knowledge of how a miltary force works , you seem to think they go from regular duties to combat ready in about an hour , you also seem to think the US could just drive through canada with thousands of men like canda isnt there .
when in reality it requires , routes to be planned , possible stopping locations , police escorts , roads to be shut and thats after all the legal paper work is filled out , which of course they would agree too however everything has to be in order , then comes the issue of fighting possibly taking place on candian sovereign territory .
so in reality the US reaction of a full fighting force would take time, the initial reaction from the US would be air power and troops moved in by air .
any invading force would go through this and have a rough estimate of the time they have to fulfil their initial objectives and prepare for the main US force to arrive .
ultimately the US would fight it off but it would leave the US with a nasty scar .
if they attacked us we would be fucked plain and simple . infact they had a task force sitting just off our coast last year and the royal navy was unable to react or track the russian fleet , our army is in a shit state at the moment , very worrying for my country
you seem to be missing the other 90% of the revolution , that was the final blow , the events leading up of storming government building etc , is illegal and makes it a violent uprising .
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Where exactly did a referendum take place before arrival of Russian forces?
[/quote] the russia forces were always there , crimea was the HQ of the black sea fleet .
the pro-russia supporters declared independence before the russians appeared then formally requested russian assistance
putin was very very clever in the way he carried it out . i have no doubt russia organised the whole thing but i also have no doubt they studied the law and acted with in it through loop holes
thirdly , if the people of crimea really want to be rejoined to russia then who are you to say they cant because dont forget they were given as a gift to the ukraine government without the peoples consent , its a very complicated issue in which you are trying to simplify
I would much rather shovel horse shit.
Im used to working hard labor and really shitty jobs (literally been sprayed head to toe in shit water), but what im doing currently is intense stabilized work.
Rolling 20+ loaves a minute while standing in one spot makes it very hard to keep good posture and keep up with quota.
Its a goal of mine to be able to live self sustainably, its just allot of work and depending on where you live some local governments are making it more difficult to do such things.
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Well happy St. Patricks day everyone. Cant wait to see how many drunks will be wrecked off the side of the highway on my way home
[/quote] i will be one of them later !!! 
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russians shooting russians. very sad.
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Yeah there is i looked before starting this up again. Its a two lane paved highway. Trucks go up there all the time and people use that road constantly.
Most national guard live on or very close to the base so they can mobilize very quickly. Thats the whole point of the national guard. They respond to national emergencies and disasters extremely quickly.
I believe theres some 6-8 thousand ground troops there. I dont think that special forces are trained to take on a number that big. And besides are these special forces just going to waltz right into the towns where the bases are? They would be spotted extremely quickly. The special forces would also have to deal with the local populace.
Getting there undetected would be extremely difficult. That air space is patrolled. And the Bering sea is also patrolled by U.S navy ships and subs. Even if they didn’t see them coming theres so much activity in the Bering Sea it would be almost impossible to make a crossing undetected.
What scar theres really nothing to damage up in Alaska that would hurt the U.S.
Well you could always fight them off with bb guns and knives