no im sorry , thats fucking disgusting . Everyone of them needs booting out of the army. You never lower yourself as a professional soldier to them levels .
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its not liberal logic at all its human decency , i have shot and killed members of the Taliban but i would never have ever considered doing what they have done . We are at war fighting to destroy ideals that belittles human life we have to ensure we do not become the very people we wish to destroy .
First port of call after securing an area after a battle is to clean it up , get rid of the bodies respectfully not piss on them.
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Not entirely true. The Depart of the Treasury does. And not classifying them as a terrorist organisation does not change the fact that they still do suicide bombings, and attacks on civilians, which would make them terrorists.
People who deliberately mass murder civilians, and carry out human trafficking donāt deserve respect weather alive or dead.
And why is that? Why is that horrifying, but riddling their bodies with bullets is not?
I never said it wasnāt crude, or unprofessional. But do i think i deserves an uproar, or prosecution? No.
Why people think people deserve respect once their heart stops beating, regardless of who they were and what they did in life is beyond me.
Almost expected this one. It seems we get a new election.
And I expect Merkel will win again, because the opposition is just too dispersed.
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I wouldnāt say it deserves a criminal prosecution but I think it deserves a dishonourable discharge from the military .
So you have no respect for the soldiers that died fighting the naziās ? No respect for the people that founded your country ? No respect for your lost family members?
The way I see it is I treat an enemies body the way Iād hope mine would be treated if it fell into enemy hands . Thatās with dignity and respect . This is a creed even the taliban and in some cases even ISIS adhear too .
If possible the body is handed over to the family in a dignified way through village elders . This is the same on the very rare occasions the taliban have captured Afghan/NATO troops bodies .
However normally with NATO we just blast our way to the body .
That may as well be a criminal prosecution. A lot of the same penalties for felonies like not being able to purchase a firearm are consequences of it.
Youāre misunderstanding what Iām saying. Of course i have respect for all the people you listed. But what i donāt agree with, is the idea that we should show respect to all the dead, regardless of who they were as a person.
i wouldnt want someone with such little respect for humanity anywhere near a firearm any way . so perfect .
āIf you are ferocious in battle, remember to be magnanimous in victory ā¦ You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest, for your deeds will follow you down through history.ā
its not about respecting the person , its about respecting human life and valuing it . Regardless of whether that individual is a terrorist or not . They have a mother and a father, a wife or a husband .
If i was shot and killed carrying out a role i chose to do the last thing i would want is for my family to have to see photos of my body being pissed on or paraded through a street like a trophy . Therefore i would never through my own actions indirect or direct put someone elseās family through that .
Dig a grave and put the bodies in it . Mark it . Or hand the bodies to the village elders . You dont need to honour them or make a big deal , just dont degrade or disrespect them either .
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Thatās a fair point. But you shouldnāt earn respect or empathy just because youāre no longer breathing. I wouldnāt lose any sleep if certain people we were fighting over there like ISIS were given the same treatment shown to extremists in the Philippines while Pershing was the governor there.
Theyāre dead, so how can it be about respecting human life?
Typical dindu nuffin routine.
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Because death is a part of life equal in significance to birth. Just because a body is cold itās doesnt suddenly devalue in any sane individuals mind .
Why would you go out of your way to disrespect someoneās corpse ? Think about the most savage murderers in the US The type that gets sentenced to death . They are normally the ones that mutilate the bodies of their dead victims . Why does it matter if the person is already dead what they do to the body ? Why does that murder suddenly become more sickening than a simple drive by shooting ?
To me itās just wrong and raises massive concerns abouts someoneās mind set if they could happily piss on a dead body .
There is nothing glorious about blowing someoneās brains out .
I wouldnāt. And again, iām not saying itās not crude, or necessary what they did.
Because those are against innocent civilians, who did nothing to deserve death. And i donāt equate pissing on a corpse with carving it up, shoving the balls down their throat, stringing their guts out ect.
Besides who is to say they were enjoying it? Maybe it was out of anger.
If it was simply just for the hell of it, and they were gleefully enjoying it then, yes iād agree they probably arenāt too stable upstairs.
Did i say there was? When have i ever glorified killing or death?
They were pretty clearly enjoying it . So you would agree then that an unstable individual should not be serving in the military in any capacity
Yesterday was penitence and prayer day in Germany. This is one of the dayĀ“s when dancing, hearing loud music and making making music in a location where you can order alcohol is forbidden. Tanzverbot. Which is one of the most stupid German laws in my opinion, and it should be changed immediately. One thing where the USA is definetely ahead of Germany is the seperation of church and state.
If you want to celebarte your birthday on this day, you are having a bad time, the police will come and shut down your party.
Jesus Christ . I thought all western nations had moved past the religion question and become lawfully secular .
I actually think the US comes across as very religious at government levels especially since trump . He mentions god quite a lot in his speeches , thatās something that just wouldnāt happen here
God or religion isnĀ“t mentioned very often in poltics in Germany, politicians donĀ“t talk about their believes or something like that. But the church as an instituation is very powerfull in Germany. This does have historical reasons, coming from the origin of the holy roman empire, as the church was a very important factor in the German countries, unlike France or England.
There are even other laws. For example, the taxes for the church are collected by the state. You can say that you donĀ“t want to pay the church tax, but it will cost around 20ā¬ to do so.
If you donĀ“t have a job, and you get wellfare money from the state, you will pay church taxes again, and then you canĀ“t say, that you donĀ“t want to do so.
This should also be the case for the refugees right now. As far as I know everyone of them is paying taxes for the Catholic church right now, if they donĀ“t have a job and said that they donĀ“t want to.
Another thing are hospitals, kindergardens and similar institions. Often, they are operated by the church, but build by the state. So the German state is building the hospitals, and then giving money to the Church and say: "please run this building"
The church then has extra laws, they are allowed to only hire christians, or even only catholics.
And you have to live a moral life, if you do so. If you are a nurse, and you live together with your boyfriend, and you are not married, it is possible that they throw you out. You also canĀ“t have a divorce from your husband.
If you work in the social sector, and you are not catholic in germany, you are having a bad time. Around 2/3 of the establishments are owned by the church, but paid by the state.
There are laws in germany that say you canĀ“t discriminate people because of their religion, but the church does have special rights, and they are allowed to do so.
The chruch say, it is important to them, to only hire christians or catholics, because they have to follow their christian mission, and it is not possible to do so if you hire people who doesnĀ“t believe in the right way. And they have to be a good example, so no divorce or relationship without marriage.
Sometimes they donĀ“t care, but often enough they do.
Another case: TV does have two sectors, private and public law. The church is part of the council what should be seen on TV and what not.
The churches are empty in Germany, only a few people are coming to mass on Sundays, often they donĀ“t have enough priests, because nobody wants to do this job, but the institution of the Church is still scarily powerful in Germany. And thats why laws like the āTanzverbotā are still existing.
Happy thanksgiving cunts. Even though you europoors donāt celebrate it.
Ha, the U.S government is probably the least Christian institution in the nation. And thatās honestly always been the case. The founding Fathers contrary to what most conservatives think, were not devout Christians. Most were deists. But they understood the importance of Christian values, and the role it had in shaping the west.
Itās a cultural thing i suppose. the U.S used to be very very Christian, back in the golden days. You wouldnāt find a store open on Sunday ( some still do close on Sunday), and instead of a rainbow flag lighting up the Empire state building, you would get a cross in Celebration of Easter.
America has not done well in itās move towards secularism. Morals have become nothing but empty values to most of the nation, Marriage is meaningless, drug use is rampant. Ironically enough most Americans still identify as Christians, but when it comes to actually being a Christian in practice, you will find few. Regardless what you think of Religion, it had a very positive effect on the U.S.
Everything you wrote sounds insane to me. Complete opposite thing goes on here. Up until recently it was down right illegal for churches to even suggest their parish vote/support a certain political candidate, and many Catholic institutions are currently in legal battles with the U.S government because they are being forced to hand out birth control.
I assumed Europe has had separation of church and state for just as long as we have been a nation.
People actually believe this crock of shit.
These people just canāt let us have anything nice. Theyāre always trying to ruin our Holidays, first with the āyou canāt say Merry Christmas because it offends Atheistsā, to āthanksgiving is about the celebration of mass murderā.