Visual Downgrade Response?

Have the Developers made any comment about the Visual downgrade the game got between beta/release?

Missing effects, volumetric fog (yes I know you can re-enable in console but it isn’t dynamic like it was in the beta), changes to foliage and trees.

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Tomas Blaho: All assets were prepared with consoles in mind.

That’s the sad truth about multiplatform games.

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Holly cow! If it was prepared with consoles in mind than why the heck the game looks and plays so baaaaaaad on consoles?

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It does? I’m playing on a console and it looks and plays great. Just some texture streaming that’s a few seconds behind.

And that’s what terrible. Plus all the quest bugs. Plus R2 still not working. Plus hours of game lost due to lost savegames. Plus “laser rain”. Plus compared to other similarly priced, visual reach games, this one looks no special (it could, but WH wasnt able to optimise game engine which is no good for consoles because relies strongly on CPU).

Because most developers always choose to prioritise the console over PC. Which is why PC players are left with a decent looking game that runs like shit and is plagued with optimisation issues.

Look at CDProjektRed for example and Witcher 3… A small company that managed to develop a better looking game, with more features that also performs much, much better.

Game would’ve probably been better off being developed with the 64bit Creation Engine, or throw in a couple of load screens for towns that helps remedy the terrible performance.

“The Witcher 3 looks and performs better” - That’s rich!

It made them rich and is a fact

Well - yep. For ps4 W3 looks better despite it’s almost 3 year older. For PC (taking into consideration all the fixes that are possible) it also looks better. And yes, Redenging is optimised and performs better. on all platforms. No problems with texture loading, no need for 480p textures etc. Current state of optimisation of the engine is that for PS4 they have to reduce the graphics to a level which, in my opinion, is lower than PC Beta “low graphics”. And loading times (long thou) are still waaaaay less than in case of KDC. Not even saying about richness of the storyline in case of W3 or the general quality of the storyline / dialogues / lectores etc.

To be honest - KDC has a great potential, hope they will progress with it like CDP with W1->W2->W3. But the first part of KDC, at it’s current state, is a disaster if you consider the expectations, time invested and the consumer price. And will never be better baceuse they will not upgrade the dialogues etc.

And got a massive downgrade shitstorm too…
I see how they managed to develop something “better”, nothing!

But i agree to… damn consoles destroyed it, that is a fact!
Like the Fact that consoles destroyed the amazing graphics in The Witcher 3

The Witcher 1 was the best game CDPR ever produced. So if you think Warhorse needs to “progress” the same way as CDPR did then I pray to God they won’t. If you can’t see the superior lighting KCD has compared to TW3 not to mention the most realistic forests ever to grace a computer game than my friend I have bad news for you because you’re officially retarded.

Rich story in TW3? Puhleeease, it’s as basic as it could possibly get. There is no even a hint of the level of immersion in the world that KCD has.

The lowest common denominator is the go to audience if you want to get rich quick but expect the most generic crap the likes of which is being produced by multitude of game developer studios like Bethesda, EA, Ubisoft etc.

You were talking about witcher 3… why shift to anyone else? I didn’t mention anyone else.

Honestly I get that someone may not like gameplay in Witcher, but comparing storywriting in W3 and KCD and saying the latter is better is simply delusional…

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Well said, agree. Maybe mr Irregular compares to greatest 2d classics like BG, BG2, IWD, F2 etc. Or maybe he simply is trolling…

Seriously if you read the witcher books the story of TW3 is basically a retread of the books so it’s not particularly riveting.

If you don’t like the story of kcd then I presume you like huge epic crap where you’re the center of the universe and the whole world revolves around you. that’s ok, there are games like that already - Skyrim, Fallouts by Bethesda, the aforementioned Witcher 3.

indeed. the immersion in the world of Planescape Torment was something unique, the same goes for Fallout 1-2. by comparison The Witcher 3 is as generic as they come. In Poland they say that The Witcher is Polish Lord Of The Rings, by the same token The Witcher 3 is Polish Skyrim.

Yes, Witcher story borrows strongly from what Sapkowski wrote, which bothered me as well (on the other hand it was supposed to do that, still execution should have been better). I never said its story was great or original, but in comparison to KCD? Be serious, please… Witcher story is simply well written, but nothing more ( which is still much more than your average cRPG). KCD in not about superhero saving the world, that is the only fresh thing about it and I like it. But other then that its as flat and generic as they go. In the first act at least it plays nicely on emotions, after that (Pribislavitz and further) it goes downhill.Not to mention sidequests. KCD lacks NPCs that have more than one dimension to them, lacks well written dialogs (there are some pearls, sure, but most are just plain). Also don’t presume too much about other people without almost any data, that is just silly. But at least I see you liked original Torment, so there are few things (surprisingly enough) that we have in common.
Sapkowski did for polish fantasy what Tolkien did to hmm… “western” one. True, but that does not mean at all, that you can even compare story from Witcher to Skyrim. If you do not see differences in complexity, dialogs, NPCs, world construction etc, then you are just deluding yourself.

Jesteś Polakiem or you just sayin what you think how it goes in Poland?

I don’t really know why everybody is complaining though. The game still looks beautiful. Even on low - med settings. I also think the bugs are annoying, and when they are gamebreaking, that just pisses me off. But they gave us save on exit like we asked, they are listening and tbh I’d rather have a game that looks good on all platforms, than a game that looks Incredible on one platform, and is terrible for everybody else. And the truth is, probably 80% of the players playing this game are on consoles. Bc they are a lot cheaper than the cost of a PC beast to run this game on max settings.

Im just saying here that we still have a very nice looking game, and all I want is a good game for my money. Like everybody else. And for everybody to just stop nagging about the graphic downgrades and enjoy the game. 10 years ago we would murder somebody for a game looking like KcD. Just saying :wink: