Yes TW3 had larger budget. YES they had a bigger team, YES they had two previous games under their belt, YES they had their own engine, and that is exactly why they could demand a triple a price. Your arguments is not valid. The reasons you just listed is exactly why WH should NOT demand a AAA price for an INDIE game. That is what now gives this huge backlash. If they had the price at 30 bucks, and said, “hey this game is cheap, because we are a small team, and our game is not up to a standard of AAA games in general.” If they had said THAT, i would not mind it so much. But they didn’t. Well knowing that was the case. No wonder ppl feel screwed over.
That may have been a factor, but games get pushed back all the time. There is a very minimal penalty to reputation these days for delaying quality, as it should be. I can imagine there were some very vocal people on this forum pushing for it to drop ASAP. Why wouldn’t they just release what we’re playing now as beta for the Backers? I still think it must have been money, but I could be wrong.
You’re right this is a great window for release: Dying Light. More than that, I think people were just hungry for a first-person, historical RPG.
release was planned in 2015 originally, so it already was pushed back
I dont think so since most active people on the forum were registered since 2014 or 2015 and didnt mind to wait a little longer to get a better game
Maybe, but they have a pretty rich investor, they didnt rely on kickstarter money, kickstarter was just to show the investor that there’s interest for the game.
So I dont know the real reason probably they didnt think its still so buggy since they havent had hundres of thousands of testers.
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We can only presume things sadly.
Questions i wonder which PS dev kit they had access to for example was the hardware that of a normal ps4 or a pro etc.
How many testers etc.
Sadly like many things in development bugs get missed or forgotten when you have the same testers over and over.
What is everyone talking about? I mean i play on ps4PRO and the only Bug i had is talmberg gate not opening but i dont c are about that the game looks pretty good and i love it only thing that i dont Like are that there wont be any mods on console and i dont want to pay 1500 for a PC because i love consoles. I grew up playing on consoles
I think TW3 comparisons are not valid because the release went relatively smoothly, especially considering the scope. I think a better comparison would be Battlefield 4. A true AAA title with plenty of funding that was not properly tested and was rushed to release, likely due to finances/pleasing shareholders. The console version basically existed as a half-finished broken game for ~6 months. Their main issues were due to online functionality, but the idea is the same: Company with great game, and in EA’s case seemingly endless pockets, releases unfinished product and lets customers beta test it for them. Regardless, I am super excited about the future of this game.
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There’s context. KCD took an idea and did some things differently. As in life, those decisions weren’t all positive or negative. They were mixed. Yes, the game is buggy and has some design issues right now. But, for a company that literally secured funds only after an online fundraiser, they had to deliver a product at some point. Some parts are rough but I don’t begrudge WH for releasing what they did. The bugginess isn’t worse in my opinion than FO4, and that really doesn’t matter. Mistakes happen. What matters is what does WH do in response to the mistakes.
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As I have clearly stated so many times now, my issue is not that WH screwed up technically. My issue is 60 bucks for a game that technically should still be in beta. Also i am on ps4, and my problem is mostly poor performance in cities and texture pop ins, but not limited to that. And with all the different bugs people reports and many i have experienced, this game is CLEARLY at beta stage, and WH must have known about the poor state of the game, how could they not? But still they choose to charge aaa price. That is what annoys me.
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is there any difference between WH and bigs Bethesda (FO) and EA (Battlefield)? i had far more fatal CE crashes and general bugginess with FO4 on PS4 than KCD. if you’re saying Bethesda shouldn’t have charged full price, you’re being consistent and that’s cool. but, to me, to single out WH isn’t appropriate. WH isn’t alone in releasing buggy games
the problem is people defending the practice of releasing completly bugged game.
We should all complain and demand quality
Witcher 3 had a horrendous launch, as did Skyrim. Riddled with bugs and terrible performance.
But i didn’t hear anyone saying " why are they charging us 60 bucks her duer".
that’s reasonable up to a point and isn’t a WH specific issue
I am aware that bethesda and other companies are lashing out buggy games, that’s a trademarke of bethsda nowadays. And no i do not think ANY such games should deserve full price. That is why we, as consumers, HAVE to stop defending such conduct. Fanboys of any developing team will defend them, no matter how shitty games they dish out. That is why they can continue to do it, over and over again. Cause people buy and defend the games. WE as consumers have the last say, we sit on the money.
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fair enough
I played TW3 from day 1. It had issues, sure it did. And it annoyed me very much. But no matter what, TW3 was not close to KCD in bad performance and bugs. Far from it. I played both on ps4. Still playing TW3. Very good game! And YES, maaany people voiced their annoyance over TW3 in the period after launch.I was one of them, even called psn.
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I think you’re right in the sense that blatant fanboyism is gross. But so is being ignorantly critical and entitled (not saying that’s you). These arguments are unintelligent and just boring. They really show a good cross section of the emotional intelligence and critical thinking ability of your average space ape. I get it if the backers want to flame, they deserve that right. But if someone just pre-ordered on hype or neglected to do their due diligence before buying this game then they really make a fool of themselves by coming to flame the devs.
everybody that bought a broken game have the right to complain…
not only backers…
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caveat emptor
So by your logic, if a phone is hyped up, you buy it, and then find out that the phone is laggy, bugged, and not what it was hyped up to be, then you have no right to complain?
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Yes, if you live in a country that protects your freedom of speech. However, with the available resources: Twitch, Youtube…one is really not criticizing the devs, but showing their stupidity by paying for something they would have known they wouldn’t enjoy if they had actually done just a little homework…then coming to whine about their own mistake. Obviously if your offering legitimately constructive criticism, then that is something different from complaining.