We are the Beta Testers

you really defend the practice of releasing broken product… lol i have no words

complain all you want.

the bugs and design issues aren’t exactly a surprise to a dispassionate observer. would have been a miracle if WH had rolled out a relatively bug free game. that’s just being realistic. company is new and small, and desperate for revenue. game is an idiosyncratic, large open world RPG. engine is per some wonky. etc. just as Henry sucks in the beginning in his technique so to has WH. it’s endemic to nearly all noobs. to expect otherwise is candidly is wishful thinking. so offer all the constructive criticism WH can handle

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If your phone is exceptionally worse than the rest, then to have a right to hold the manufacturer to his warranty. However if you didn’t do your due dilligence, then your fault alone. If you then come to complain and trash the manufacturer, you have a personal problem of being unable to identify and accept your personal responsibility in a free market.

I’m not saying this game is perfect…

It’s a little more nuanced than that. I think my original post states pretty clearly my position on the state of the game and its release.

I will stop complaining if WH fixes all the issues. Cause i actually like the game it’s realism. And the hsrd combat and all the fun things zi can do in game. So hope they can fix all the issues. But i could not care less that they are new and a small studio. That is something they were aware of, and ofcourse it is hard for a small studio to make this big a game. But then don’t charge aaa price.

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the vendor perspective is ‘here’s the price. do your homework about who we are and what are product is. then, take it or leave it.’ there was enough info to know this was realistically going to be buggy. if the consumer didn’t do his/her homework and just made a blind faith purchase (assuming that if it was AAA pricing that it was good), then that’s on the consumer.

i’m all for holding vendors accountable for the quality of their product(s) and customer service. but, that doesn’t relieve customers of their own responsibilities: to consider the product and its maker before making the purchase and to provide actionable feedback to vendor

good grief … caveat emptor has been around since before the setting of KCD

my KCD purchase is done. whether i make another WH purchase is gong to be determined almost solely by what WH does in response to the feedback now

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My due dilligence? Ok here we go. I researched the game, the ps4 900p, the 30 FPS and such. The devs never told me though, thst the fps would only be 30ish something outside of major cities, they never told me that on top of 900p the textures would be lower than vanilla oblivion, they never told me that texture Lod would be totally ridiculous, and that i could expect to see pop ins of fruit on tables 10 feet away, that peoples hair and hats would dissapear from 100 feet. That houses would look washed and textureless from more than 100 feet, and sometimes pop in altogether. I could go on. What they DID tell me though, was that it was a new fresh rp that ran 30fps with beautyfull graphics. They also told me people would run and hide in rainy weather, they told me they had a beautyfull cloud and weather system, they did not tell me that sometimes it would rain from a blue sky. Still i could go on, but think i have done my research on what to expect.

and your research on the company?

i don’t care if engineers XYZ say they can make a new car with this many HP, etc. if all i use to inform my decision is specs, i’m not being a smart consumer

What do you mean?

TS
Men don’t cry.
But you can.
You understand why.

car manufacturers get it wrong, drug makers, etc. software companies are no different and in some cases, they are the worse. their specs and verbal communications to the public often don’t mean much.

don’t trust any of them. and if the product is pricey, trust them even less.

So to buy a game i have to know all there is about the company that makes it? Oh my, i have a lot to do then. When I pay a triple a price for a game, i do not expect a beta. No matter what. You are trying to make me the person at fault here. Instead of the company that have released a bad product. I do not think that is the right way to reason. But that’s your opinion.

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But as i said, i will wait and see what WH can do. Cause i really like the games ideas. Just not the way the game was launched

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Over and out. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

sure, you should know about the maker of the products you buy. you don’t have to know about the boardroom, etc. but you need to understand what kind of company they are.

beth**** is a huge, impersonal giant that has a history of releasing buggy games. if i buy a game from them, my expectation should be tempered to that reality. doesn’t mean i should shut up. it just means i should expect a buggy game and I shouldn’t expect quick turnaround (if any) to address quality issues that bother me personally (hence, FO4 modding on PS4 dustup)

ora*** is even bigger. they are used by all manner of companies that make products based on their tech. do you think they fix bugs that you catch that are very important to you but aren’t security exploits? lol