We NEED a female warrior Protagonist!

I just watched this video and feel inspired:

We NEED a playable female! Down with Henry!

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No we dont, female roles in this time where anything but great. Stop thinking of how things are biw and how they where then. Your kcd experience will be 100% more enjoyable. This game is historically correct as much as possible a midevil simulator if you will.

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is that satire? if so, he’s like 4 years late. we had the whole ā€œlaugh at sjwsā€ when the kickstarter first came out

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He’s pretty famous on these forums, that video was pretty funny though.

Joan of Arc… she is literally during this time - basically. Just born 10 years later and died 30 years later - ish. Not saying we do or do not need a female protagonist. But she was far beyond great.

But she was also burnt at the stake because she was a woman.

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That was also England, women at this time had no rights to land title or status

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If they are going for realism then what would they have her do? I don’t think female warriors were a thing back then…to be historically accurate.
She could carry Henry’s things for him, take care of his horse for him, maybe ensure there are clean clothes and a hot meal ready for when he comes back from his travels. :thinking: lol no, but seriously, they could write in some type of storyline where she helps behind the scenes and strategizes for the cumans or something. A crafty villain behind the scenes or whatnot.

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Like I said not for or against. However would be a little far-fetched. I’m perfectly content with pee-wee Henry

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She is far far away - Shrek far far away

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I dont understand why this is an issue. Witcher series had also only a male protagonist and I did not see people complain about this.

As much as I believe in equality I dont think we should force our 21st century ideals of equality on a game that simulates medieval experience. It is true that in past there were also female warriors, but in past times they were exception. Its hard to imagine medieval lord like Sir Radzig Kobyla taking a women as a squire.

Now this was no doubt due to the sexism of the age, which was bad. Women can be warriors as well, but if you are making a historically accurate game it does not make sense, unless you would completely change the backstory of character to resemble those like Joan from Ark or others. If you would now just make an option to make Henry female the story would not historically make much sense.

I mean as much as I wish women were in medieval Bohemia completely equal it wasnt simply true… in the medieval times and in christian countries women were generally not even full right to own property or inherit and they were treated more or less as property themselves (see for example academic work on this issue by Bardsley, Sandy. Women’s roles in the Middle Ages. Greenwood Publishing Group, 2007). Again this was appalling but if you want a historical accuracy then that is how it was. It would be completely different matter if this would be either fantasy or some alternative reality or if at least story would be written for a female character.

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@Aleah If you are going to shamelessly self promote your youtube channel at least be honest about it and make one thread for it.

Future threads promoting this content will be consolidated into your two exist threads.

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TW3 also had a female char so they were e x c u s e d.

So you want to play as a character with no rights to purchase anything, own anything, can be be stripped of anything and everything at any given moment. While your only realistic professions would be motherhood, wife, maid or some other lower form of work.

This is a thread for people who don’t understand what a simulation game is and want to whine about what is available in other games. Well go pkay those games, the features and game play of this one makes it, its own game. We dont need a skyrim rehash.

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So… from a historical perspective, there are lots of such cases. Are they Exceptions, yes, but they do exist and would make impressive stories.

Notable Medieval European examples of women warriors BESIDES Joan of Arc include Matilda of Canossa, Isabella of Castile, Jeanne Hachette, Isabel of Conches, Joanna of Flanders, Caterina Sforza, Lagertha, and Sichelgaita of Salerno.

Some of them were nobility and some peasantry, and I believe none of them were burned at the stake, but don’t quote me on the last part.

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According to historians, Joan of Arc was 19 when she was burnt at the stake in Rouen by the English on 30 May, 1431.

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Maybe warhorse will give us a game in the future with a female protagonist, how ever right now we have Henry … dopey little henry.

Joan d’Arc was burnt because she was an emblematic figure almost like a martyr she was burnt for witchcraft which was a common excuse to kill women with. :octopus:

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The one who made this video is probably looking for easy views and is probably the one who started this topic. Now to the point, I don’t get why this is turning into such a big deal. The handful of famous examples you can provide don’t really do much for your cause. Women had separate roles from men back then not only because of patriarchy but also for a good reason. Life wasn’t easy back then and there weren’t automated machines or facilities to help you. Women were truly the other side of the coin back then. They looked after everything in the house, ran the family, helped on the farms, cooked food while the man went out to earn coin to make life possible.

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Actually Lagertha like also Ragnar are fictional characters. There is no real historical evidence these were real people, but thats not really the point.

There definitely were female warriors, generals etc like Boadicea and others… But all these historical, and also mythical figures have always a special backstory. Matilda, Isabella, Isabel, Joanna, Caterina and Sichelgaita were nobility. Not all of these were active warriors but more of a warlords . Moreover, some of them are not even from middle ages which ended in 15th century with the fall of Constantinople in 1453. The point is that at those times ordinary women did not became warriors, not because ordinary women would not be capable of that but due to socioeconomic inequalities embeded in culture and legal system of medieval society. Making a female version of Henry without changing the story it would not be anymore historically realistic game.

However, this being said it would be fun to be able to experience story of Isabel of Conches which would probably best fit the game stile. I would not mind even if the game had only a female protagonist as long as it would be explained of in some realistic way since this game marketed itself as a virtual time machine… Heck why not even make sequel about one of these womens… but really just copy pasting a female character into this story as it is would not work

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