We NEED a female warrior Protagonist!

The protestant reformation was totally during the medieval times. I’m talking in general about the medieval times not just 1403 women didn’t have a big role in society during the medieval times. They also couldn’t acquire land or businesses by themselves, they had to be married and their husband die for that to happen, unless they were nobles. Also that one dude can’t seem to grasp this is the medieval age that this games takes place in.

Just to start, I would like to repeat, that I don’t see the need for a female PC but would like to see one or two female combatants.

About crossdressing, pretty much what I’d expect within any sort of formal retinue, because they care, not necesserely knights thought, because those have a much bigger formal role.
But mercenaries and badits? Who cares if she got tits if she can the perform the most esential task of medieval warfare: pointy bit into enemy.

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You did as predicted you overbearing twit

the protestant reformation didn’t happen until about 100 years after this game.

And in some countries the definition of the medieval period end with the reformation.
But that is one of the issues with periods, they have different starting and ending years depending on where i Europe we talk and what historian one ask.

But the idea that no woman did anything other than cook and give birth is simply not correct.
And they had more rights, again in general, than they had during the 18th and 19th century.

this thread is as pointless as the one about black guys in game, you’d have an equal chance of meeting either.

with the risk of a spoiler…

when Merhojed gets attacked It is my impression that everyone who could carry a pitchfork or axe did so… with no regard to sex. But I guess I would need to go back and talk with the different villagers to hear it again to find out if that was the case.

It is at least one situation where it do make sense that everyone, men and women arm them self and help fight of the attackers.

a few years after the game we get the Hussite rebellion… I read about it back when I did my b.a about early fireamrs… and it is my impression that some women did fight with the rebels there too.

But again a case of civilian society norms breaking down and the situation requiring everyone to help out…

I’m not trying to say that women only did those things, just affirming that it is women’s role in things like knighthood and combat was generally non existent, therefore having a female lead would detract from the overall historical accuracy of the game, which is my favorite aspect of it. It’s be like running into black people in the game it wouldn’t make any sense, if you catch my drift.

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Jmoinjoe3, What makes a noob at combat being able to infiltrate and kill a camp of battletested Cuman on his own a tolerable level of historical accuracy?

Oh FFS NO we don’t. Very few civilisations in history had women as warriors and only 1 or 2 that did were European civilisations. There is a reason Joan of Arc was such a special case - because there were NO women warriors in Europe.
Female warriors are fine in a fantasy setting - but thats where they belong, in a fantasy setting, where they can rely on things like magic to explain how they compete with the physically stronger males.

Well, henry is not a warrior either. He’s just a milkdrinker. I mean, have you seen his look, (Spoiler) when Theresa kisses him the first time?(Is there a way to really hide spoilers, not just mark them?

I Think it would be interesting, seeing NPCs reacting to a woman going hunting with Hans Capon? If it’s well done this could be truly immersive!

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You absolutists are a funny lot. You have a world view denying the existence of the exceptional when the exceptional itself is probably sufficient to make your case.

I agree. It could like iron-woman mode :slight_smile:
Ultra hard!

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If you think strength is the only relevant factor in a sword fight you know nothing about how to use a sword… You counter strength with weakness, that is a very basic principle of sword fighting.

Gender roles is the main limiting factor on females in combat roles … both in the 15th century and today.
And they where sufficiently strong to stop any women from training as a man of arms… and only in times of unrest and war do we sometimes find examples of women picking up arms and fight to defend them self.

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Yes but Henry was trained as a blacksmith, so he should be bloody strong, strong enough fight people who don’t have much skill. And early on in the game, Henry sucks ass at fighitng and can only beat untrained bandits and robbers, its only later on after training, learning and experience that Henry is able to fight soldiers.

The ONLY way a female warrior would work in this “Realisitc” setting is if absolutely every character gives her shit, people laugh at her and don’t listen to what she has to say. Hardly anyone would be willing to sell her weapons and armour. It would be very difficult to even find someone willing to teach her the sword, so that in itself would have to be a long questline with dialogue and difficult speech checks. Plus she would have to lose every clinch in combat, because there is no way she is overpowering her enemies. Combat in general would have to be harder in almost every aspect. And then after the woman has achieved her goals and done the main story, she would still be treated like crap by most people and very few would believe her. In other words there would be no real pay off to her story, she wouldn’t receive any meaningful recognition. So what is the point?

When did i ever say strength was the only relevant factor?

Lol one thread started off by some troll explodes like this… Unbelievable

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Yeah i thought it must be a troll, but im bored waiting for my food to warm to up and its fun debating the die hards who believe women can do anything a man can.

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So you would give the woman in heavy armor with a sword who is probably either an agent of nobility or nobility shit?
That sounds… unswise

Finding a teacher on the other hand would be easier than you imagine, aside freom friends, lovers, brothers, fathers and other male relatives a woman might turn to and nag until they help her fencing schools also taught women, at least in germany. After all women also had a right to trial by comabt.
But yes, a woman would loose most clinches as they are in the game, thought a woman can grow stronger than some men, with the right genetics and training, but here as well there is more technique to a clinch then thrength.

more hogwash, proper training beat pure raw strength in a sword fight… and similar the clinch system in this game allow a lot of Technics that can be found in the treatises and that got nothing to do with strength.*

In a bind the moment the opponent try to use strength you counter with weakness.

Iam not arguing that a female men-at-arms would be realistic in this game… but your understanding of medieval combat is very clearly based too much on rpgs or watching battle of nations…
(something that is a modern sport that got very little to do with actual medieval warfare)

Also pretty pointless bud. It’s one of those debates that never ends no matter what you say or do :joy:

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