90+ Hours of my life gone

|Crazy accusations. What crazy accusations. You mean saying that the early release of a broken game was financially motivated? Shine a little on the truth on how the business world works and it’s called crazy ramblings?

So you’re saying that they didn’t release a broken games for money. What world do you come from where 60 million isn’t a motivating factor. Grow up. They basically stole $60 bucks from Ps4 users. Please quote my crazy ramblings and show me how delusional I am.

They’re shutting down threads that shine a bad light on WH, like it’s our fault they sold a broken game and now cant take the criticism.

Money motivated #cashgrab

Forbes just announced that the game budget was 36.5 million dollars without including marketing. The game should be polished more. Thats the main point, i have been replaying the game 3 times and the pain in order to reach back to where i was made the gameplay very very very painful to me. I dont care how good the game is although I love it, but it’s ridiculously full of game breaking bugs. Donkt come defending the game saying it is the best game, this is not the point, you can’t ask ppl not to get angry because your ride had been smooth with no bugs.

sure, and cars shouldn’t be released with safety defects. thnk Flashfire wasn’t saying that it’s ok to release defects; think Flashfire is saying now that this issue is known you can take steps to prevent a major disaster (equivalent thing with cars is once safety recall is known gotta take the car into the shop to avoid a major disaster; that the safety recall should’ve never happened is besides the point).

You say they stole $60 from ps4 users do you speak for all of us? In my community of friends 8 of us are ps4 users and love the game all agree it was 60 well spent. Not everyone is getting the bugs sorry that you did but nothing can be done by complaining and reporting the same problems over and over that they already know about and have stated they are working on. Just be happy it’s not a Bethesda game as the devs are putting out frequent patches and it might not take the 4 months Skyrim In took to be playable.

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So you are saying that I should be happy buying a car that will break in any time any where?

you’ve got the car. the basic choices are:

(1) where legally permissible, seek refund
(2) where refund not available and you’ve reached your limit, throw away the car and derive no future benefit from it
(3) where refund not available or not interested in it, wait until the maker rolls out the fixes before adding to one’s personal frustration and before making a bad situation worse

i’ve spent countless hours on KCD, so (1) is like asking for a iTunes refund for an album that I purchased and listened to multiple times with pleasure. i’ve paid in good faith so (2) is stupid for me as it is an act of spite. (3) is the only reasonable choice for me personally. to each, his own.

Lol, you are really going with that analogy. I want to play the game cause I love it. I want my progress to be saved. Now that my progress is lost am not happy about it. Am here to say that am not happy about and about the quality of the game on release. Ppl now are attacking me for expressing my frustration because “the game is best thing eveeeer”!

game isn’t the best thing ever… not yet. it is in part an investment. the pay off isn’t and shouldn’t just be considered in relation to product at release but after the product has ‘matured’ some.

Then it should be reased when it had “matured”

I wouldn’t take it as a personal atk. People get defensive about stuff they are enjoying. Everyone dose it, I’ve done it a few times on this forum. It’s a matter of our personal experience with the game I haven’t gotten anything accept minor bugs on side quests. With that I want to see more from this new dev as the game has been fantastic for me thus far aside from combat imbalance. That being said sometimes I forget others are not having the same experience. I don’t think most of use intend a personal atk just defending a product we want to see more of but don’t always choose the best words.

software always needs to mature in situ. come on… DOS, Linux, Windows, MacOS, HTML, C++, SQL, FO4, Skyrim, Ass Creed, KCD

the actionable question (answer) is at what point does a work in progress (all software is a work in progress) acceptable to market?

I know, I love the game too and my main frustration is that the bugs ruined what could have been one of the best gaming experience for me at least this year.

i agree with you

i would also say i don’t object to the viewpoint that the game QA was crappy in places and that the game was accordingly released too early. problem is who’s to judge. an FPS rate might be fine for one user but totally unacceptable for another. what is the objective threshold?

yesterday, i posted a link to 38 FO4 problem and workarounds… this is years after release. that GOY was released in NOV 2015. at what point, did FO4 become objectively releasable?

Not only that Skyrim still to this day has game breaking bugs. It’s all objective and relies on when the people complaining decided to accepted it as released.

this bitching and moaning is understandable but it’s not actionable.

it’ll never happen but wish backers and users on this forum would put forth a list of somewhat objective criteria. those criteria would form a minimum client (user) facing set of quality expectations (eg, fps rate min of x) that WH would strive to meet for any DLC or stand alone product.

having the above, users can point to specific critical pain points encountered and that need to be prioritized.

It’s hard gamers can rarely agree on what’s acceptable for frame rate etc… lol. On console however I think a list like that could be achieved as this like fps are not as variable as on pc. Accetable fps on console i would say is between 30-60. However others will say anything under 60 in unacceptable.

isn’t the convo worth at least having? rather than the relentless COW vs troll battles

I think it is however i also think it would be derailed quickly as people have such strong opions on what acceptable for preformance.

new forum up. not expecting much. but at least willing to give it a try.

But the car will still work with safety defects. My game is completely broken and tried to get a refund but couldn’t. Like I said, bugs are par for the course on any new game, but not stress testing the save mechanic was just lazy or incompetent. They saw dollar signs and released a broken game knowing that there is nothing we can do about it.

Buy it now and we’ll fix it later. In the meantime, please enjoy your $60 drink coaster/paper weight. WH’s sack must hurt from all you fanboys swinging on it.