Oh yeah, I was! One time for free hehe
He beat my damn hard with that wodden sword …
When I’m asking for Training now, we start at I think 50 Groschen … since my lockpicking is … not that good … I’m hunting rabbits to gain more Groschen to grain more Training to gain more […]
??? interesting… 
To be fair, Bernard hits like a god. There isnt an option to have a beginner, or veteran fighter just like the beta.
It’s the lack of adjustable training that is the issue here. If Beanhead has his lackeys to gauge the combat, than OP wont make this thread in the first place.
Or holding down “BLOCK” and you get face raped after not blocking anything
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I had a similar feeling at the beginning and trust me, it wasn’t only Henrys fault I got killed or lost 90% hp to most bandits.
The tutorial is decent, but not great, and you need to get into the ring and fight with Bernard to learn the mechanics of combat a bit better. but here is what I would recommend:
Riposte! this is a move that is triggered when you time the block “perfect” with the opponents attack, and will respond to the attack by blocking it and automatically striking with a unblockable attack of your own. You also stagger your opponent and should have enough time for a free strike after a successful Riposte.
To do a riposte you must first unlock the move by talking to Bernard and complete the Special moves training for your weapon, (and unlock the riposte perk in warfare, i think. its one of the first ones.)
after this focus you eyes on your opponents weapon in a fight, when he begins to draw it back to charge his strike, press Q to riposte. this is before the green shield icon appears in the middle so if you wait for that it will be too late. Look at the animation.
With this you can win all 1v1 fights, and probably 2v1 as well, just keep changing your focus target and run in a circle so you only face one at a time. Once you get the hang of it start incorporating other moves and get more offensive. If you mess up and start getting raped keep Q held and you will block everything (until you lose all stamina) while you back off and try again when the stamina is back.
I disagree. I find combat very challenging and interesting. I feel that I am really doing smth instead of just mindlessly clocking an attack button like in so many other games. You can change the angle of your attack, make your opponent think you’ll attack from one angle and when he prepares to block it from that side you change it and strike. The fighting process is really creative in this game, I feel that it depends more on my skill rather than just the level of my character. It’s tough, but I like it
The combat in this game is one of my favorites.
Combat in this game is quite difficult, but that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Learning to block, parry, feint, and strike when you should are indeed hard to learn, but once you have mastered the sequences, it becomes alot easier and enjoyable. I also think what you plan on is a factor as well, I feel as a PS4 player, the controls are buggy and unresponsive at times.
One thing about combat I do find amazing is not just your stats are important but also your weapon choice, based on the enemies you face. You piercing, slashing, and bashing damage, and whats your armor your opponent has also affects how the fight plays out. You also need to make sure you are not trying to go above your “player skill” level. You want to be all cool and use a battle axe, but you don’t have a shield and the axe is the best with defense by itself, that coupled with the fact that you don’t full grasp the combat yet is a recipe for disaster. I can honestly tell you I am for the most part terrible at melee combat, I prefer a mace and shield, but also have a long sword available just in case.
I have however become quite proficient at archery, and thats saying alot with no targeting symbol in this game. So for my and this first playthrough, stealth and patience have been very important. Can’t tell you how many times some well placed piercing arrows to an enemy without a faceplate have saved my life, when 3 enemies are running at me to hack and slash.
This game still needs some work, balancing, and tweaking, but I am grateful for the hardwork they did putting it together and look forward to more!!
stick em with the pointy end is great advice. I have had much more success with the quick stabs than with the telegraphed slashes.
Quick question since alot of people are watching this thread, why are there no crossbows? Historical accuracy or technical/gameplay mechanics?
Keep at it with the training with Bernard. If you’re not confident enough with combat after training with a few times, keep at it until you get it.
It took my about 20 frustrating deaths fighting Iudex Gundyr in Dark Souls 3 before I got the hang of combat and was able to take him out. I applied the same strategy in this game. If I’m having trouble with the combat, I just work at it until I finally get it.
Also here’s a tip for you:
either buy or steal a bow (there are several free for the taking in the guard house next to the church in Rattay, as well as a few good starter swords, axes, and maces), go out into the forest, and shoot some game. It will up your skill in archery, get you use to the sway of your aim, and when to release the arrow. To practice the feel of your bow, head to the archery range in Rattay, and shoot at the targets. With time and patience, you’ll get the feel for it. Shooting game can grant you much needed coin (just be sure to cook the game before you sell it). Get some coin, get a horse (if you don’t have one yet), hunt some more until you can kit yourself something that will give you decent protection.
You can also get some decent gear from treasure map locations. The best sword and armor in the game can be found in a chest up the road (north east I think) from Neuhof.
As far as parrying, make sure to pay attention to the 5 star reticle. When you see a green flash, that is the time to hit the block button. Also, running is an option when you’re outnumbered. Think strategically when entering combat.
Combat sucked for me when I first started, but now I can take on a camp of bandits with no problem.
Last thing: Learn alchemy. You can find all of the recipes here: https://kingdomcomedeliverance.wiki.fextralife.com/Alchemy+Recipes
Some potions will reduce the damage you take by 50%, others will increase your damage output by 50%. There’s a potion that will steady your hand when shooting your bow, and will zoom in a bit onto your target. And you can poison your weapons, which could give you an advantage in combat.
I hope this helps.
Hell, even Hal’s father mentions crossbows. Good question. I’d love to see that in this game.
Yo man, I had same issue with fighting got the crap beat out of me alot, went back to captain and trained in all areas multiple times. I found that matching weapon with stats helped and I switched from sword to mace and I became the BEATER. I would only use Block, dodge, instant switch attack. Even when I went up against 4 enemies. Helps to learn to make stamina potions and drink before the fight swords appear.
I cant dodge worth a crap but i still dont lose. The problem is Henry is crap at everything, even if you are doing everything right he is slow and ineffective; you just have to keep playing. You may laugh at the wooden weapons but it is limitless free training, so take it; and its the same minus knockout damage vs killing damage/cant make you bleed.
once youve leveled your stats up a bit things will get waaaay easier. One way to scum the opponent is to push the block button when youre getting close to them to initiate a grapple. as soon as the animation starts start mashing stab or slash, each will result in staggering knock back. So i just stab then repeatedly until the clinch start automatically or i initiate one and then keep hitting the stab button. My guy will stab once or twice, grapple, punch them in the face, they stagger back and i stab them again and repeat. You really just need to get some decent armor so you can take hits, learn to manage stamina and back off when you need and after that, when your skills level, youll see an increase.
battles used to be pretty tough, now noone stands a chance against me in my game
I’d recommend just practicing parry and riposte. Especially riposte with a stab, rather than a slash. Even if you don’t get a “perfect” parry, you can usually get a hit, rinse, and repeat. It seems like every “Combat is too hard” post is countered with a “Combat is too easy” post.
My two cents - especially in the beginning - is to never take an offensive move. Practice the timing of parries until you can do them every time, then add a stab, just a stab. Rinse and repeat. After that you can start branching out to be honest - parry, riposte will win you every one on one fight in the game. Good luck.
also, if you’re using a sword - use a shortsword at first, it’s faster. For a mace or axe, try getting a shield. But again - stab, rather than slash. You won’t do a ton of damage, but in the beginning it’s all about getting them skills up.
My biggest advice:
Get a shield
Do not fight while overburdened
I’ve realized there is a huge difference between being over burdened and when you are fine.
The game tells you in the tutorials that that particular buff will make combat slower for Henry, and you will get beat pretty easily.
Also, in a pretty realistic fashion, if you miss your block or let the enemy get inside your guard, you get disoriented and are left open to a combination of strikes from your enemy. But if you happen to have a shield, you can hold down block while backing away to hopefully get away with little damage taken.
Keep a close eye on your stamina - low stamina means you will not block well and will be taking damage. Pretty much at 0 stamina you most likely taking all of the damage being thrown your way.
Also, try to be patient with your strikes. I find some of my duels last a while in these early days because the enemy can block a lot faster than Henry can swing his swords. But I find timing with stabs as you pull the enemy closer to you to be a good opportunity to get damage thrown in and open them for more strikes. On top of this, try feinting (hold down attack and before releasing, change your area of attack). It does not work all the time but it is something else to take advantage of.
I hope this might help a bit!
At the start of the game for roughly 10 hours I really struggled with the combat. I found an axe somewhere and it was all I had, I had no coin for gear or anything. But there is a flow to the combat and every move you make matters. Have multiple enemies? If you have multiple enemies, try to move so that you are always luring them to attack you one by one and avoid getting surrounded. Walk backwards long enough until they start running towards you lowering their defense and at that moment stab them in the face as they run straight to your weapon. Have an archer somewhere in the background? Position yourself so that the closer enemy is between you, and if you are real good you can even get the archer shoot his friend in the back.
The game does not explain you this but the yellow stamina bar is basically what your shield is in a fantasy game. When you get low on stamina, the enemy will do a combo on you and you’ll take heavy damage. So Stamina reservation and economy management is key to combat. Rather than going all out, let them attack you, do a perfect block when the green shield icon pops and then counter attack.
Maybe crossbows are just too easy to use? an infirm bedwetting old cat lady can hold a loaded crossbow, point it towards whatever she wants to kill for as long as she pleases, and press the trigger once she is sufficiently pissed.
If they are realistic crossbows then no. Not at all. I know it might seem like it but real crossbows were actually hard to use and so are the modern replicas.
I have a fine medieval replica. Put the goatsfoot on, pull back the string, remove lever, add bolt. you can aim along either tiller or bolt, put your head comparatively high or low, whatever feels good and is easily done, with absolutely no need to adhere to the geometry of your arms needing to support more than a hundred pounds of draw weight. You can wait as long as you please, without the drawweight destroying your muscles and stamina and you getting jittery. The mechanical pieces are doing the job ob holding the string. And the power is consistent, not like a bow, that needs precicely the same draw length to have the same power. That identical draw with every shot is built into the crossbow.
