he wouldn’t necessarily have to resent hitler or the nazis to be an interesting character. he could simply have more pressing matters at hand, like trying to stay alive.
plus, usually the good german portrayal uses the cliche “i hate hitler” thing as lazy writing because they don’t know how to make the character sympathetic otherwise.
I am all ears as they say and trust me I have been thinking about this one a long time + many other possible kind of games and stories, the only thing I am missing is millions and millions of cash, otherwise it would already have been made.
The problem is that all sides during World War 2 for example did evil things, there is no general good side in the whole war at all.
Example, America dropped the atomic bombs and bombed cities like Dresden, knowing fully well that most people killed would be civilians only. Japan did experiments that were worse than that of the Nazi’s, look up Unit 13 and ofcourse the attack on Pearl Harbor. The Soviets raped and tortured their way to the heart of Berlin, something also frequently forgotten nowadays.
So this alone should show why playing as a Nazi in game doesn’t mean he or she is the only evil in the entire world war. The story could be very interesting if done well, two main charachters, all have a family, all they want is the world to end and return home and both have seen terrible things they didn’t expect from their own side. However, even if you mentioned a game like this without telling about that story people would already be in an uprising and hate against it would never calm down since you, the main character would play as a Nazi…and in this world it seems no one can be a good person and a Nazi soldier at the same time.
No i would say the western allies were the good side. Germany started the war and Russia was absolutely horrible to the people they liberated. Germany killed around 11 million 60 million died as a cause of them starting a war. Japan killed around 20 million. And millions died under Russia. Theres a reason the Germans were fleeing to the Americans and British. They knew they would be treated well but under the Russians they would not.
200 k people died around 70,000 military dead vs a land invasion that would costed around 500,000 American lives, around the same amount of Japanese soldiers and around a million Japanese civilians. It had to be done.
Yes yes they did.
Nope sorry if you’re not going to join the Nazi party unless you’re a white supremacist. Sure there were good German people who weren’t Nazis but the Nazis were evil plain and simple.
Please Warhorse make children IMMORTAL. Put your passion for making perfect game aside this time. We know how you feel about social justice worriors, but If you want to continue doing AAA games indepetly (and finish all acts after all), your game needs to SELL. Dont let the game being banned in some countries!
So make childrens IMMORTAL but INCLUDE them in the game. It will be easier for modders to make it right this way. I might be even able to change a number in console and play the game how I want it to be from first day it is released.
wh_cheats_KillChildren = 1
To solve orphans problem, just make them dissapear when the player is not watching. this imho the most realistic and easy to do.
Unfortunately, I don’t think that allowing you to change settings in console to have killable children would be solution. It would mean that the game was published with an included option of killable children, which would make it banned the same way. They simply can’t have any possibility of killing children in official release, otherwise they will have a problem.
The only solution I think is possible from the Warhorse side is to release the game without any possiblity of killing children, and THEN release a patch that would give you that option. This mean it wouldn’t be in the offcialy sold version of the game, and hence they would have no troubles, yet players who want to have killable children could download it. However, I’m not sure if it is possible for console users to download unofficial patches.
I remember saying that exact same comment about 20 times now. 
I’d only add that Germany and Austria were the only two countries where there was none (0, zero) resistance movement against the Nazi party. So, there goes your thesis about some nice Germans out of the window.
This is complete bullshit. The Nazi party and Nazi cause had overwhelming support in Germany, for as long as they were steamrolling over Europe and enslaving the “untermensch”. It was only after Germans started getting their teeth kicked in on the East front and in Africa that the support started slowly falling, but still not to the point of any actual resistance.
I think you should open your history books and get up to speed with reading if you say that there was no good side in the WW2, before you start saying that Germany was actually defending itself against Poland at Gleiwitz.
just make the children the same as every other character, but program it so the player will never attack a child, ie he will say to himself “why will i do that?” or “ummm, this isn’t right” when you try and stab a child.
but the thing is, this means killing of children is strictly prohibited in the game, that’s what censors and ratings and country laws look at.
then once the game is released, it’ll happen like in skyrim, people will mod out the prohibition, and war horse can simply disavow themselves from those mods. maybe even take official stance saying no links to those mods will be allowed on forum. but of course everyone will just go and get them on moddb or nexus
But there is more ways how a child could get killed. He/She could run into the arrow before you go ummm… more I think about it, I can understand why its so much easier not to have them at all. There would be funny situations with immortal kids even without you attacking them directly…
Whoever says “killable children” is wrong, but is ready to play and kill anybody else in-game, is nothing but a hypocrite. This has been discussed too many times in the past…
Blessings to Dan for leaving these stupid immortal 3d models out of the game, kids or not. Better don’t have them at all rather than ruin the gameplay Bethesda’ style.
Except for those of us on the PC that would have had the opportunity to MOD those Immortal children into killable children; sure I completely agree.
most people who are interested in this game won’t be killing the kids anyway, so why would it “ruin the gameplay”?
and besthesda games suck in spite of the immortal children. when the mod enabled child killing, skyrim didn’t suddenly become good.
Because it is weird when a kid is run over by a dozen horses, stands up and runs off playing.
Because it is weird when a kid is hit by a missile from trebuchet, stands up and runs off playing.
Because… and I could continue with hundred other possibilities of unintentional deaths.
Unlike their absolute absence in times when perhaps more than half of the population were children… not wierd.
You mean in a game that takes place during a civil war, leading to two possible solutions:
(a) having half the population unkillable, whatever comes their way for example during a castle siege, or
(b) having the game banned in about half the world’s markets, thus limiting income and hence any future Warhorse projects?
Skyrim won’t be good, because it is made by Bethesda 
Every Bethesda developed game IMO is arcadish and console minded. This is the exact problem in reality. Look at Fallout NV which was done by Obsidian. Well, it is not a perfect game either, but sure it is a lot better than Fallout 3 and Skyrim gameplay wise, especially in how quest progress is handled. In New Vegas you usually have several ways to finish a quest and in Skyrim you usually have only one - the “good” way.
This is what makes Skyrim a bad game IMO… surely there are a lot of great things about it and I spent around 300 hours playing nonetheless.
Yeah, thats why it is such issue and why we are talking about it. I did not claim it is not a problem or that there is a perfect solution.
But it is more accetable to me to have immortal children during few moments in the game then not having them at all. Even if they hide them, not include them during the battles make them dissapear while out of sight or something… Wierd and silly? Sure. But still not as much as their absence.
THESE COMPLAINTS ABOUT CHILDREN IN KINGDOM COME ARE TOTALLY STUPID!!!
You can’t just create smaller version of adults and that’s it. It is not that easy to implement children in this game.You have to create completely new AI for kids. Adults go to work during day, but what about children? Somebody has to take care of them. Of course they were also working, but still they couldn’t work so long as their parents. This creates lots of new problems. What will they do during the day? What will they do in the evening? They can’t just go to the pub and drink with others. They can’t simple act like adults. This wouldn’t look good.
As you can see It is not only about making them immortal, which is also totally stupid, because you are all the time saying you want as much authentic experience as it’s possible, but on the other hand immortality in the world where everything is immortal is ok for you?
For me realism isn’t having everything what is/was in the real world also in the game, but I expect, that
everything what is in the game is based on reality. For example in flight simulator you can just fly around, but you can’t land, get out and start talking to people how was your flight, because that would be pointless, but yes it would be nicer.
That’s the same case like the having children in KC:D. They are pointless in this game. NPC are there because they can interact with the player, but what do you want to do with children? They can’t give you quest. Only quest which they can give you is: where is my mom? :disappointed relieved: I am so sad. This is such a cliche in the game industry.
You can’t either kill them, because then the game couldn’t be released on steam, XO and PS4.
There are only 2 possible scenarios.
a) Kids in the game -> Game is released much much more later, because everyone in the AI department has to redesign AI.
b) Let the developers to make tottaly awesome game and wait on some mod -> everyone is happy.
Well children would have been working back then to help out their families. And remember these are different times. The adults would have been way to busy to be constantly watching their children and i bet the children would be un supervised most of the time.