Will there be ...children?

they’ve banned games for far less

Yep, you used rethorical question to disprove a point I hadn’t made, which is the very definition of a straw man argumentation.

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The way I see it, you’re unable to put yourself in Warhorse’ shoes.
Otherwise there wouldn’t be that much back and forth about already discussed stuff.
Arguing in a circe here leads to nothing useful.

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Wrong. But I guess you misunderstood the question or I posed it not detailed enough…anyway, doesn’t matter.

What a clever comment…

You know, why even using a forum and discussing stuff if Warhorse already knows what to do? The forum is there to discuss topics among people that are interested in the topic and not only for the purpose to give Warhorse some input what we feel right or wrong…

I have every right to state my point of view and you could just disagree if you want to. But please don’t pretend like you were the most clever person here who knows everything and therefore any discussion is unnecessary from the very beginning.

Anyway, I’m out. :wink:

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I can’t see how this could go together with a top-notch revolutionary combat system?
It would be revolutionary useless! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

At first you didn’t want to draw a line somewhere and now you’re drawing it too early.
Make up your mind? :smiley:

That’s what several people here are doing.

I don’t pretend anything and I don’t know everything, far from it.

Is it just me or did this conversation get hit by a train? People I would like to give some advice, take it or leave it. If you have a debate with one person specifically please move it to private chat (aka messaging each other) I’ve done this a few times and it works much better than extending it into a drawn out battle between two peeps.

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Oh, I have a line. It’s called consistency. Either I’m able to kill everyone or nobody. :wink:

And of course you could still use your revolutionary combat system. For example in self defense or when you are ordered to kill person X during a quest.

I have actually a proposal for adding the possibility to kill childs in the game. They already announced a crime system. Why not giving the game a meaningful moral system? That means if you kill an innocent child poeple will hate you and the mob probably kills you on first sight or you will be beheaded by justice soon. That way killing childs (or killing anyone) wouldn’t be rewarded in the game by any means, it would be punished like in real life. So killing a child would be possible but it would lead more or less to a gameover screen very soon. That way you even learn that killing people is wrong… :wink:

I guess people here think too much about games like GTA where you can just kill people without any serious consequences. Maybe you got caught by the police or shot to death but hey, you would magically reappear. That’s the whole concept of open gameplay done wrong and I don’t want that for KCD. I want a full range of possiblities (killing people and nudity and stuff) but I want them to be implemented in a mature and meaningful way and not for some kind of goreporn or anything. Like I said, it should fit the situation and the scope of the game. So a horrible crime like killing a child should be treated accordingly by the gaming world without any easy way out (or withouy ANY way out). That’s how topics like that can be included without games being banned immediately…

Yes, I need to learn sometimes to just not bother.

Sometimes, people will argue even if they know they are wrong just to argue.

Good advice, personally I am done with this debate :smile:

I see the company’s point in that they fear that the game will be banned from certain countries if children are allowed to be put down… But child killing was actually a common practice back then because of lines of succession, elimination of dynasties, inheritance and etc. Maybe you could allow children to be killed but only by assassins or plotters that you hire so that you don’t even have to see it yourself, in that way no ones eyes will be exposed to the murder of children.

But if none of the things above is going to be a feature I don’t see why we need child killing. (You’re pretty weird if you still want it.)

Also I thought these persons wanted to create their dream game and not what some rating agencies tells them is “appropriate” for a game.

I really can’t believe some countries would make a big deal out of it… it’s not like the game is all about how many little kids you can kill, nor is the topic anything new or unexplored.

Some of the biggest classics I’ve read in high school were all about kids killing other kids and there was no controversy there. Some of the biggest classics in the world and plenty of other books have explored this topic numerous times… yet as soon as it’s in a game (and not even part of the main theme or story) and it’s already a big no-no.

Yes, it’s true there is a serious double standard when it comes to games.

Take a look at the “Hunger Games” series, where kids are killing kids.

Still, regardless of whether or not it makes sense, people make a distinction between watching/reading about something, and the simulated act itself.

Is this fair? Maybe yes, maybe no. Regardless, it is what it is.

There will be mod…mod with children killing, naked people, homo people and maybe also shitting on the street…somebody will do it, I am sure, it will be pretty dark and hilarious at the same time. :smile:
P.S.: If you want to discuss realism, why are we not arguing about masturbation? It is only consistency, if you put some partner sex, let there be also masturbation… :smiley: LOL

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Pooping in the streets as mini game?
Or taking a dump in the throne room?

Masturbation?
What about ejaculating from the rooftop of the steeple? :smiley:

I’m thinking that, since you can apparently have relationships with women, and sex may be possible in-game, shouldn’t there be a chance that nine in-game months after having sex, the woman you had it with turns up at your door with a baby?

This is part of the side-quest to obtain your Bastard Sword :smiley:

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I was just thinking about how the absence of children in the videos we’ve seen so far felt kind of strange because such a world would feel quite lifeless. I am relieved to see that I’m not the only one who was worrying about that.
I think the most important points were already mentioned but I wanted to post my opinion anyway because I think children are quite crucial if the game is supposed to be authentic. The solution I would prefer is:
Include children since the atmosphere would suffer quite a lot from their absence. Just make the main character refuse to kill one. In my opinion this would not be inconsistent because he has some background and personality anyway. Even if you choose to play as a criminal, people were quite religious back then so what is so unrealistic about some bad guy being afraid of going to hell for killing a child? I don’t think that would be a contradiction because there seem to be quite a lot of religious criminals nowadays…

So I’m looking forward to riding into a village full of children chasing each other through the mud. Of course my dog will be pleased to have his head patted as well. :wink:

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“my dog”

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Seriously, I was talking about the dog companion. Had to google that file. Wish I had not. Thanks for that kind reply.

I kinda wanna quote Bill Hicks on children, but that would not be conducive to an healthy environment, I think. Don’t quite care anyway.

Suppose they should die, indeed they did. Was one helluva task reaching maturity, great achievement just in its own right.